Sochi Olympics Awarded To Russia To Stage Coup Against Ukraine

Michael Thomas
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April 20th, 2014
Updated 05/01/2014 at 3:10 pm

In 2011 Russian Astrologist Pavel Globa Predicted War In 2014 After The Sochi Olympics

Hindsight does have a remarkable way of allowing the past to be revisited and properly understood. There are many events leading up the the US-sponsored and CIA-coordinated coup d’état in the Ukraine which point directly to a highly covert implementation plan going back to 2007. That was the year that the 2014 Winter Olympics was officially awarded to Russia. Sochi is the southernmost city ever to hold a Winter Olympic Games. All the competition venues were located within relatively close proximity to the Olympic Village located in Olympic Park in Sochi.

Which begs the question: How does a city nestled on the subtropical Causasian Riviera get awarded the WINTER Olympic Games, except by design? The actual approval occurred in 2007 — a year when global warming was rapidly picking up steam. The inherent risks of placing a Winter Olympics in such a questionable geographic location are beyond ludicrous, especially in light of the costs associated with hosting these exorbitantly expensive extravaganzas.

Here are some headlines, which appeared during the past Olympics, that illustrate this point much better than we can.

Winter Olympic Heatwave: It’s So Hot In Sochi, People Are Going To The Beach And Swimming

Sochi 2014 – CBC Sports – Sochi sizzles under Olympic heat wave

So much for the Winter Olympics! Sunkissed beachgoers strip off in Sochi as hot weather turns ski and snowboard runs into slush

Sport – Skiers hot under the collar in Sochi heat wave

Heat Wave Hits Sochi Winter Games; Olympians Claim Effect On Performance

Why Is It So Warm in Sochi Right Now?

Sochi Weather: Temperature Hit 60

Olympic Officials Scramble to Counter Warm Weather

Sochi sizzles under Olympic heat wave

Sochi beaches are known as the Caucasian Riviera.

Sochi beaches are known as the Caucasian Riviera.

 What’s the point?  

There’s no good reason for Sochi to have been chosen for a Winter Olympics, except for an opportunity to stage a full blown revolution in downtown Kiev.  Yes, that’s just how the planners at Langley think. Years ahead in their design and engineering of coups, wherever they choose to overthrow a legitimate government.

What is particularly noteworthy is the unusually close proximity of Sochi to Kiev.  Vladimir Putin probably never thought the CIA and Company would have the audacity to perpetrate such a transparent coup d’état during the actual Olympics, which is exactly what the Anglo-American / European Union / NATO conspirators did.  Actually, knowing Putin, he probably now puts nothing — absolutely nothing — past the Anglo-American Axis.  They have proven repeatedly that they will do anything they want, anywhere, anytime.

Therefore, it is quite likely that Putin must have seen it coming all along, knowing that there was really nothing he could do to stop it.  The Ukrainian President’s behavior throughout stands as testimony to such a forgone conclusion.  That he even escaped so easily to Russia probably surprised the CIA plotters who were probably hellbent on pulling a Romanov family-style execution.   They are hunting down Viktor Yanukovych’ s son with a vengeance at this very moment.

Before, during and after Sochi, Putin was playing a serious game of chess while his Western counterparts were playing checkers.

Putin is rightfully known as a very savvy and skilled geopolitical chess player.  Surely he knew that he could parlay such a foolhardy and reckless scheme implemented in Kiev into a checkmate … a checkmate in Crimea.  Really, can Washington be SO stupid as to have provided a perfect and totally reasonable pretext for Russia to take back the prize known as The Crimea Peninsula?!  Those guys in DC, London, Brussels, and Tel Aviv must be on way too much blood pressure medication, as a result of all the other mismanaged coups they have conducted around the world since 9/11.

Truly, one gets dizzy thinking about how many revolutions, civil wars, coup d’états, protests, armed conflicts, border skirmishes , etc. these folks initiate to bring down democratically elected leaders.  This is their stated way of exporting freedom and democracy worldwide.  Even nations that are peaceful and prosperous are quite vulnerable to the CIA machinations, if they happen to be located in the wrong place, and at the wrong time.

Obama has always been a critical part of the New Cold War 2.0

Back to the Sochi Olympics, it does appear that Obama was placed in office by the very same people who have called for the isolation of Russia, and the taking of the ex-Soviet republics bordering the motherland.  Zbigniew Brzezinski (United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter), George Soros and others advising Obama on critical foreign policy during the 2008 presidential election campaign were determined to get Obama to voice his intention to isolate Russia and drone away in Pakistan, which is exactly what he has done.

Therefore, there are no surprises here; only complete and total mortification that an ill-advised plot to award an Olympics to Russia would be cynically exploited to overthrow a functioning democracy. Particularly one in such a volatile region contiguous to Eastern Russia, known to be inhabited by a fierce and powerful BEAR.

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All the while, as Putin was sunning in Sochi soaking up the limelight for having averted World War III in Syria, the Western ruling elite was perpetrating the Ukraine Revolution 2.0 in his back yard.  Little did they know that they would lose not only Crimea, but also the much more economically productive Eastern and Southern Ukraine in the process.  These guys are just too funny.  Particularly in view of the distinct possibility that much of Europe may even be without heat in the coming winter, should the Ukraine persist in refusing to pay its gas bill.

We suppose that the USA forgot to think about that … but then maybe they didn’t …  when they voted to award Russia with the Winter Olympics of 2014!  After all, there is a big pond between CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia and Maidan Square in Kiev, Ukraine.

Conclusion:

Can there be any doubt that Sochi was put on the drawing board by the CIA as a means of further encroaching on Russian sovereignty?  Why is it that the Anglo-American Axis has it in for Russia, for so long?!  There are actually several reasons which will be discussed in our next installment in this ongoing series about the Ukraine.

In the meantime it is advisable to closely watch every move that is made — by both East and West — on the game board known as Maidan Nezalezhnosti (literally Independence Square).  Since this is where the Great Game is being played out for the foreseeable future, much more is at stake than can be imagined.  Whoever wins this ‘game’, will exert more influence the world over for decades to come.  Given the multitude of forces at work, most of them unseen and unheard, many of the most consequential moves will occur far from the Ukraine. Nevertheless, the outcomes are guaranteed to be as weighty and far-reaching as they have ever been.

State of the Nation 2014
April 20, 2014
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References:

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich accuses CIA Director Brennan of ordering a crackdown on pro-Russian activists in the east of the country

White House Admits CIA Director Brennan Was “Secretly” In Kiev

Endnotes:

[1] Caucasian Riviera is known to have subtropical weather.

“According to the 2010 Census, the city had a permanent population of 343,334,[5] up from 328,809 recorded in the 2002 Census,[11] making it Russia’s largest resort city. Being part of the Caucasian Riviera, it is one of the very few places in Russia with a subtropical climate, with warm to hot summers and mild winters.”
(SOURCE: Wikipedia – Sochi)

[2] Google Map of Sochi on the Black Sea coastline.
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Michael Thomas is a contributing writer to Storyleak and Editor of the State of the Nation website, where he offers analysis on geopolitical events.

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  1. Bruce Mecklowicz says:

    The CIA plotters never cease to amaze!

  2. Ruth M. says:

    The rationale here really makes perfectly good sense.

    How has everyone else missed this?

  3. Sara says:

    "How does a city nestled on the subtropical Causasian Riviera get awarded the Olympic Games, except by design?"

    Very good question! ! !

  4. Harold H says:

    "Surely he [Putin] knew that he could parlay such the foolhardy and reckless scheme implemented in Kiev into a checkmate … a checkmate named Crimea."

    Yes, that makes a LOT of sense!

  5. Kelly says:

    Can you believe CIA et al. pulled off a coup right in the middle of the Olympics?!?!?!?!

    They are completely without scruples.

  6. The Analyst says:

    When will those incompetents in DC ever get it right?

    Fools and malcontents, thieves and murderers — all of them!

  7. Robert Harrington says:

    Article below reveals the BIG picture about the story behind the story re: the Ukraine.

    All Hell Breaks Loose In 2014
    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=4764

  8. Guest says:

    Mr. Thomas, once again, thank you for a very thought provoking article.

  9. Mr.Lincoln says:

    Apr 20, 2014 Last week, Ukraine launched an anti-terror campaign to recapture the cities being occupied by pro-Russia protesters. So far, the campaign hasn't been going so well.

    On April 16, the second day of the campaign, Ukrainian military moving into Sloviansk — the focal point of the pro-Russia forces — and gave up their equipment. The armory was brought to the center of town where it has become a local amusement.

    Elsewhere, crowds of pro-Russia protesters stopped a column of Ukrainian troops in Kramatorsk and made them disarm. VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky was on the scene as Ukrainian forces disarmed their weapons and vehicles.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNig07RtWxA

  10. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Edward Snowden is to blame for this. And now that traitor is doing propaganda Q & A's with this dictator Putin.

    • Roger says:

      I think it's funny, in an ironic sort of way that the patriot Snowden was able to outsmart and escape with information they still can't figure out, that Snowden can sit with any leader and make sense while exposing the tyranny Obama is imposing on us, and Putin realizes that it's better to spend time with Snowden than to waste it with the fool we have in the oval office.

    • Mr. Liberty says:

      I must admit that Q&A session bugged me, seemed awfully staged.

      • Alinsky Hero USA says:

        Even the liberal Democrats in Russia are mental.
        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ru

        • Mr. Liberty says:

          Good lord, such a gentleman. What is your opinion on this?
          http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/04/ant

          Some say its legit, others say it is propaganda.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            My family fled Kiev in 1917. I believe it. Jews are not liked over there, and someone thinks they have an opportunity here to get rid of the rest of the Jews that stayed.

            Have you ever read The Fixer?

          • Roger says:

            On occasion you mention jewish heritage. I find that a difficult leap due to your attacks on the state of Israel.

            How do you have both positions?

          • SUA says:

            On the other hand, it could be a propaganda campaign. Really hard to know who is behind the leaflets. Could be Ukrainian nationalists trying to smear the pro-Russian crowd. Could be Russian sympathizers. Could be a bad joke or the actions of a splinter group. There's even an outside chance it's the West, seeking to build support at home for intervention.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Either way, whoever did it made it harder for the Jews in that area.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Agreed. Scary to think this is exactly how it started in Germany in the 1930s.

          • Roger says:

            And once again the Jews have a liberal progressive in the Oval office that doesn't seem to have a mind towards protecting Jews.

          • SUA says:

            What would you recommend? I don't think I'm alone in saying I have zero interest in our country participating in a military intervention. For the moment, I'm grateful that the political will to do so seems to be lacking.

            Putin is counting on that being the prevailing sentiment amongst the world's "superpowers". I think he's right.

          • Roger says:

            I recommend that we approach the world from a position of strength.

          • SUA says:

            America's traditional strength in such matters comes from military dominance and a willingness to use it. In this case that seems impractical and ill-advised. In fact, Putin is betting on that being the case.

            If that is off the table, what would you recommend to attain this position of strength?

          • Roger says:

            Is it? Or has Russia realized we are weak with a spineless leader and seized this chance to take advantage of it?

            The cold war was won through strength, not weakness.

          • SUA says:

            A different President would face the same realities as this one – after years of spending in Iraq and Afghanistan our budgets are stretched. The political will to move militarily against Russia in their own backyard doesn't exist.

            Your assertion that Putin would behave dramatically different if America had a President with a stiffer spine doesn't hold water. You are simply looking for an excuse to bag on the current President, as usual.

          • Roger says:

            Reagan faced this same reality only worse the USSR was still strong with the Soviet block intact. He had a decimated military and an economy in shambles. He didn't fix things by projecting weakness and hating the country as obama does.

          • SUA says:

            You are looking at history through rose-colored glasses. The Soviet Union was not "still strong", it was crumbling from within. Do you believe that the former soviet states all woke up one day in the late 80's and spontaneously decided, "Today would be a good day to dissolve the union."

            There are plenty real issues to criticize the Obama administration about – things I'd love to see him called to account for. IRS, NSA, drones … the list goes on. Whining about him allowing Russia to take control of Ukraine because he's not Reagan is a waste of breath.

          • Roger says:

            Communism fails every time of course, when it's not sprinkled with enough free market capitalism to keep it alive.

            But I was there, and am not relying on history as it was written.

            We were weak too, waiting in lines at gas stations for rationed gas in my area. Our currency was inflating so that savings was stupid and lost value. Our military? That was when they started rumblings about too many bases.

            Reagan started talk about star wars systems and Russia woke up and realized they were in trouble, yes.

            Obama has systemically eliminated every advantage we have. And it always leads to situations like this.

          • patriothere says:

            Except when it comes to the hutterites and other small knit communities.

          • Roger says:

            Did they actually pay you to say that?

            Why is an Iranian paid hack here posting again?
            Can't the rest of the Trista Parsi trolls handle it?

          • patriothere says:

            No. You and john mccain can go make out somewhere else.

          • Roger says:

            I don't expect someone from Iran would understand McCains lack of popularity among his own party.

          • Roger says:

            There are so many mind games going on, it's hard to know what is the reality in the streets.

            But to use the Jews and their fears as tools in this larger game, it shows the mindset of the people playing.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Yeah it is hard to tell. I am leaning towards our CIA being the culprit. Trying to drum up support for the western backed coupe. Don't forget, there were a lot of Nazi sympathizers during the initial protests and even Nazi party members being installed into the new government.
            http://www.infowars.com/us-backed-neo-nazi-party-

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            No I have not read that book. What is it about?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            It's about a Jewish handyman living in Kiev during early 1900's that gets accused of a murder he didn't commit. It spans though the horrors he had to put up with in jail.

            It highlights the level on antisemitism in Ukraine.

            It was written by the say author who wrote The Natural, which was made into a movie.

            Spoiler Alert, at the end the Jewish guy is sent to the Lower Spiral.

          • Roger says:

            Social justice is important.
            To kill a mockingbird hit the same theme. Racial injustice.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I will check it out too

          • Roger says:

            Injustice is a topical issue now, with this regime in office it's not a huge surprise.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            At least the Jews can flee to Israel.

            Hopefully Israel will survive and stop letting Christian fundamentalists to use them to kill Muslim and attempt to control the oil in the area.

          • Roger says:

            It seems that the islamists are just wanting to do their thing.

            Why would you blame their self defense on Christians?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Let's hope it's propaganda.

            How was your Easter?

          • Roger says:

            The religious holiday? I'm surprised you asked about religious holidays.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            It was good Wee thanks for asking. How about yours? Kids have fun searching for eggs?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Pretty good, smoked ribs all day and cooked. Had a huge Easter Egg hunt at home and one at the park. Had about 200 kids show up.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Wow that's a lot of candy!!

            After church we grilled steaks and hung out with the neighbors. Nice and relaxing.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Thats cool. Can't beat a good cookout

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Yes sir! I wish we had smoked ribs that sounds bomb.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            They were pretty good, can't beat a good grilled steak though

          • Roger says:

            Beef is always a hit when it's cooked right.

          • njmcc says:

            what about bananas?

          • Roger says:

            What about growling under the bridge?

          • njmcc says:

            that doesn't make sense

            Banana time again

          • Roger says:

            Still growling under that bridge?

          • Roger says:

            Sounds like you don't mind Christianity as much as you pretend then.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Easter Eggs have nothing to do with Christianity, just like Santa to Christmas.

          • Roger says:

            Yet unless he was out converting people to Tamuz and the sun god of Nimrod in the sky it is celebrated as a Christian holiday.

            And Saint Nicholas was a real man, in a Christian culture that did good things. Due to his religious beliefs.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Christians (should) celebrate it according to our faith. Non believers have their own reasons to celebrate. To Christians the eggs and Santa have nothing to do with the holidays. It is just simple fun/tradition, in fact some Christian families do not even lay eggs on Easter or exchange gifts on Christmas. Easter is a time to celebrate Jesus' resurrection, triumph over the devil, and the good news of Grace. Christmas is a time to celebrate his birth and prophecy fulfilled. Santa is a false idol, along with the Easter bunny. My family does all the traditions of eggs and gifts but we were raised to know that this is not what the holidays are really about.

            It bothers me when Christians fail to realize what we are celebrating. It does not bother me if Non-believers have different motives for celebration, i.e. family time.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well said. I clelebrate all holidays as a family thing. I don't need to inject religion into it

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            It is separation of church and state. You don't have to celebrate Easter the same way I do. I am alarmed however with how far the state goes to separate church. IMO there has been some unfair treatment with regards to Christian traditions. I.e. barring someone from saying "Merry Christmas" or requiring people to take down nativity scenes on private property. The door swings both ways.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I say Merry Christmas and I will continue to do so. Nativity scenes on private property do not bother me either. You are right the door does swing both ways

          • Roger says:

            Yet you attack Christians for things they don't believe and aren not taught as part of their faith.

            I find this contradiction insulting.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Don't care what you find insulting. jesus was not born on Dec. 25th and the chirstians stole that from the Pagans

          • Roger says:

            Can you prove he wasn't?

            You can assert you don't think he was, but you can't know.

            So, we're just discussion your opinion here.
            And If it celebrates His birth, then it's a Christian holiday.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            "Excerpt from Bible.org

            "Now it logically follows that if Jesus Christ lived (need it be said?), he must have been born. The Gospels tell us that his birth was shortly before Herod the Great died. Herod's death can be fixed with certainty. Josephus records an eclipse of the moon just before Herod passed on. This occurred on March 12th or 13th in 4 B.C. Josephus also tells us that Herod expired just before Passover. This feast took place on April 11th, in the same year, 4 B.C. From other details supplied by Josephus, we can pinpoint Herod the Great's demise as occurring between March 29th and April 4th in 4 B.C. It might sound strange to suggest that Jesus Christ was born no later than 4 B.C. since B.C. means 'before Christ.' But our modern calendar which splits time between B.C. and A.D. was not invented until A.D. 525. At that time, Pope John the First asked a monk named Dionysius to prepare a standardized calendar for the western Church."

            Roger, it doesn't matter what day Jesus was born on. What matters is we honor his birth.

          • Roger says:

            And Chistians do that on different days, the orthodox churches of Eastern Europe have a different one all together.

            But it's for us to decide, not for others to allow us.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well you can call it a christian holiday all you want. It's not for me and basically I am not bound by your limitations

          • Roger says:

            And you can pretend you are powerful enough to decide it's not all you want, I'm not bound by your imperious edicts.

            And neither are any Christians that celebrate it.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You have not shown it is only a christian holiday

          • Roger says:

            Sure I have, and others have too. You've been around this before.

            The nativity scene proves it, and you don't get the option of allowing or disallowing any religion any celebration they want.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            nativity scene proves what?

            I don't care how any celebrates a holiday. You are the one throwing a fit claiming it is only a christian holiday

          • Roger says:

            Wee this is just more than your bigotry can handle. You do care or you wouldn't go on the attack the way you do.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I wanna know what the nativity proves.

            You are the one beibg a bigot and claiming only christians can celebrate hoildays and hoidays like Christmas are only christian holidays.

          • Roger says:

            No, you don't. If you wanted to, you'd already know.

            And If you take the "Christ" out of Christmas there isn't anything left to celebrate.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Sure is a day with family is a great reason to celebrate. Anytime family can get together is a celebration. Who cares about the christ part?

          • Roger says:

            For you, but for Christians it's about the birth of the historic Jesus in Bethlehem.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well good for them and I am glad the have a day to celebrate that and the rest of us non-christians can celebrate that day as a great day ane and time to spend with family and not have to deal with any religious rituals

          • Roger says:

            Then you just picked a day at random if you remove religion form th eday. Christians celebrate on it. Why not rename it and have your own non religion to pick and choose random days while you're at it?

            Just leave our celebrations alone.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Sorry you don't get to make those demands and I find it funny you think you can you POS

          • Roger says:

            Cn you list the good regulars still here after your possehas spammed the place for months?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Lincoln, Liberty, Alinsky, SUA, myself, just to name a few

          • Roger says:

            The posse. Why am I not surprised you listed them fo rme?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            So all those people are my posse? You're an idiot

          • Roger says:

            Nope, just observant, other than Mr. Lincoln. And I get along with him just fine. Particularly when you're not spamming the place.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            he does not care for youand he has made that clear several times

          • Roger says:

            So, you pretend it's a popularity contest now that everyone bu tthe posse is left the building. Wee, we get along when you're not spamming the place.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Hey Lincoln, Roger just called you a troll that is here just for him.

          • Roger says:

            Do I hear growling from under the bridge? Why? Do you miss the recipes from yesterday?

          • patriothere says:

            Can you prove that I can't fly?

          • Roger says:

            Can you prove that Trista Parsi knows you're here doing this lame?

            Are you afraid you might end up like Mojtaba Ahmadi?

          • guest says:

            Are you going to wallow in dung for the rest of your life?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            He loves the smell of it so I bet he will

          • Roger says:

            WTE, I'm surprised at you.

            To make such a strong statement so close to the end of your shift at your terminal.

          • Guest says:

            Thats all right shltbag. He is leaving, and I just clocked in.

          • Roger says:

            I know, the posse is organized, I've said it all along.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I am the TheNewsMadd

          • Roger says:

            You are someone that trolls and stops serious discussion and debate.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You're projecting. I made two good comments on the cop story and you trolled them with dumb comments and smart a$$ remarks to stop the debate

          • Roger says:

            I made great replies to your comments. That's what this site is for. Debate, that means you say something and people are probably going to reply to it.

            You want to blog, go get your own blog.

          • Guest says:

            To a pig, the whole world is a pigsty.

          • Roger says:

            And to you the world must be one big bridge to growl under.

          • Roger says:

            Are you going to be that dung for the rest of your life?

          • Guest says:

            Hello Roger, so I see you phucked another thread. Good going!

          • Roger says:

            I see you're here to make sure WTE didn't leave any decent comments alone.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Do kids actually eat those eggs on Easter?

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Yes sir plastic and all, just like all our BPA and testosterone blockers in food and plastic bottles. :)

            Like how I worked a conspiracy theory in there?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Oh, I didn't know they used plastic eggs now.

          • Roger says:

            You can put all sorts of treats in the eggs, so it opens up all sorts of ideas for things they can hunt for.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Oh yeah I forgot your Jewish, my bad lol.

            Yeah candy is put in plastic eggs now. I've always done that way, but I am a youngin, what was the old tradition? The painted eggs?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            I just remember seeing all the egg dying kits in the supermarket growing up.

            Seemed like kids really got into it.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            We still dye eggs and use palstic ones for candy

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Cool.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Now that was funny

          • Roger says:

            Some won't drink water from plastic bottles.

            To each their own.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Really? Thanks. Did not know that.

            sarcasm

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Roger drinks form the toilet bowl.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            it's about family and and being together Something you would not understand . Nothing about religion for us

          • njmcc says:

            Sounds like Rog didn't get any eggs this year………………………again!

            Those ribs sounded epic!

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nothing new there.

            Bought a new electric smoker and had to try it out. Gonna try eggs next

          • njmcc says:

            I'm hoping to get a proper Webber this summer – Dropping subtle hints already for father's day!!!!

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I would recommend this one: http://www.hayneedle.com/product/weberperformerpl

            Ever hear of the Big Green Egg?

          • Roger says:

            There are chickens that lay green eggs.
            We some once, and while some like them we couldn't really tell much of a difference.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            It's a grill, not a chicken egg

          • Roger says:

            That makes more sense.
            Green eggs and easter, it's not unheard of but….

          • njmcc says:

            Jesus wept Roger – You really are thick aren't you

            You go bouncing into others' threads without knowing what they are about and post drivel which shows just how moronic you are!

          • Roger says:

            Does the social ist country you live in not use colored eggs?

            I realize you are smarting since you are banned at another site and want to just make up for all the angst here. You seem to have plenty of ill will. And I suppose if it's all you have you need to milk it for all it's worth.

            But really, can't you pretend to contribute to the story?

            These other folks can't manage to do so, they discuss cartoons, recipes, but then many of them just wander from site to site trying to diminish them.

            This site has been targeted for months now and still manages to put out serious pieces on serious issues.

            I understand they want to undermine that focus, but you?

            You just seem to dislike everything in general.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Yes you have targted this site for months and even though you have put in great effort to bring the site down you have failed. The site still thrives and you are still not welcome on here. Everyone on here needs to email the admins and get them to ban you

          • Roger says:

            On weekends and before you and your cadre of characters derail threads real debate still happens.

            That must really upset you.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Not when you are around. If you notice when you take your afternnon naps civil discussion thrives on here, but as soon as you show up you ruin that. I have checked on weekends and all you do is the same old back and forth trying to bring the site down. Not working to well for you huh? It shows good always conquers evil, which is why you lose

          • Roger says:

            Yes, when I'm around.

            You aren't here to interfere on weekends and actual debate returns until the site is spammed again.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nope, that is a lie. I read through the comments on the weekend on this site and it is the same old back and forth.

            Why do you think you can lie and get away with it?

          • Roger says:

            No, you haven't. Or you have and it makes you so mad you take it out on the site during the week.

            Why do you think you can lie and get away with it?

            Is that why I bother you so much, by pointing it out?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Yeah, I read through them all

          • Roger says:

            And came back monday morning from your terminal in a really lousy mood and have been trying to make up for it ever since.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You don't get to decide my mood and pretend I have a terminal. I have a Dell Latitude.

            Great weekend too. You won me money again

          • Roger says:

            You pickyour mood, I just mention that it's obvious. You aren't fooling anyone.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I know I do and I am happy. You are pretending you can say I am angry.

            Now that is funny

          • Roger says:

            What's wrong, calling in even more reinorcements> Wee, you just aren't doing so well this morning even with all your anger. Is it almost time to go to the atheist site for a while?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I don't call in anybody. YOu need to face reality and realize no one here likes you or wants you here. I will continue to put you in your place though

          • Roger says:

            Poor baby, were you just too busy trying to stay ahead of my rebuttals?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            When Roger starts

          • Roger says:

            Growlings from under the bridge, nothing more. It's all you have.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            I have a girlfriend. You don't.

          • Roger says:

            This isn't a dating site, so it's not something I would dsicuss here.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            roger you are no challenge, just a mindless troll with predicatable comments and talking points

          • Roger says:

            Facts may be boring, but they are what they are.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Because Roger is here every weekend and every week day and every week night.

            No girlfriend, no life. He is completely consumed with the people here. So much so he paid 1500 dollars to get closer to them.

            Except stupid forgot to get our real names first.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            And he pretends he has debates on here on the weekends. They must be hidden stories that only he can find

          • Roger says:

            I don't have to pretend, not when the posse is gone.

            Now, it's just a matter of pointing out that the posse is still here spamming the place.

            Is it recipe time again?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I don't know. I will wait and here from Mr. LIberty and see if he wants to discuss it more. You know the guy you called a troll. However you also discussed cooking yesterday. Hypocrite

          • Roger says:

            It sounds like you aren't even going to pretend you're here for anything now.

            Usually that's in the last stages of when you target a site.

            All that anger and nobody left to drive off. It must just ruin your day.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You asked a question and I answered it.

          • Roger says:

            No, you just replied with more of your standard talking points.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nope, I answered your question and you just didn't like the truthful answer I gave

          • Roger says:

            No, you didn't.

            And it wasn't truthful any more than any of your other insults are.

            You really are struggling today, don't you need another break or something?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You asked me to provide names of people on here and I did so it was truthful.

            Struggling? That's a good one I put you in your place all day today. That's normal and everyone on here agrees with that except you

          • Roger says:

            You have a list of people that you drag around with you, other than Mr. Libety and Lincoln, and on weekends I get along with them just fine.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            They just tolerate you. Licoln has put you in your place several times and has told you about your stalking. Both of them would liek to see you gone from hereg

          • Roger says:

            From you, I'm not surprised you think that. But yet this morning eerythign was so civil ansd serious until you showed up to troll the palce. *(by your owndefinitions)

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            He debates whether to jerk it to his Magic Mike DVD or to your old posts.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Roger didn't reply to the message above. That means in copied it for his lawyer for the case that will never happen.

          • Roger says:

            That sounds like you. You admitted once on a weekend that you had the posse until Wee got back monday, that he spent weekends with his family.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            I never got direct orders, by I assumed I was head of the posse when Wee was out.

          • Roger says:

            You both deserve each other.

            Nobody that used to frequent the site deserves either of you, imo.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            or you

          • Roger says:

            When the trolls are gone and I can actually discuss things without getting spammed then I'll take it up with them.

            Until then they don't need your type of targeting.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Getting spammed? You reply to every single comment. Why? You are just as bad as the guests

          • Roger says:

            Only you can't control me the way you have alinsky and your cadre run the guests.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I don't controll anyone nor would I want to. YOu think you can though when you demanded non christians can't celebrate Christmas

          • Roger says:

            Non Chirstians dont' get to tell Christians when or how they celebrate thier hholidays. You tried to do taht.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I never said they did. Quote me.

          • Roger says:

            Changing tacts now?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nope, yu claim I said how christians can celebrate holidays and I never did

          • Roger says:

            You said it wasn't a Christian holiday, it is.

            That would deb you a non Christian telling us what Holidays we're allowed to have.

            Check mate.

          • njmcc says:

            Oh Rog
            You've shown yourself again to be so thick haven't you.

            Every time I touch a nerve you respond by trying to poke fun at Ireland's fiscal position and this only makes me laugh harder. I mean I'm not smirking here I've actually belly laughed at your previous post.

            I see you did go and tell tales on me and got me banned at CVN after I destroyed you on that debate. I take that as the sweetest victory. Its the internet equivalent of taking your ball home because the other boys are better at the game. Boohoo – run home to mummy!

            I am like your organ grinder and you are my performing monkey – now must go get you a little Fez and waistcoat.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Getting banned from CVN is something navy quee r does to anyone who does not parrot his views. Good job though. Did you read what I sent you?

          • Roger says:

            Still nothing but the anger and hate lashing out.

            There are sites that survived you and your posse, and still have the loyal people commenting on stories in ways that drive you bonkers.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You sure do like to make things up huh?

          • Roger says:

            I don't have to.
            That's the sad part about all this.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well you made up that I was angry and lashing out and you also made up the part about those sites driving me bonkers

          • Roger says:

            Saying the obvious sin't 'making things up'.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            It's only "obvious" from your POV and your POV does not reflect reality

          • Roger says:

            Of course it does.
            And I don't need a posse to back up what I say.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            No it doesn't and neither do I

          • Roger says:

            Sure it does.
            And of course you have an entire cadre of supporters working in a coordinated way to back you. Even Alinsky admitted it yesterday when he said we didn't have orders to take charge of them on weekends but did it anyhow.

          • Roger says:

            I hear the trolls growling under the bridge…..

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            That's just your raging hard on for Wee begging to explode.

          • njmcc says:

            All that growling kicked you @ss on that site though

            I mean I owned you on that thread – so much you had to run to the teacher and cry like a baby!!!

            I was pretty awesome!

          • Roger says:

            Oh my, there is still growling under that bridge.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            roger claims you are "sore" for getting off cvn. Is that true?

          • Roger says:

            You can check his comment stream and see where it suddenly ended at a particular site.

          • njmcc says:

            Oh I'm very sore – my sides were splitting at his pathetic tale-telling

            Honestly I couldn't care less

          • Roger says:

            And that's why you said I ran to report you.

            You admitted that you were just here to jerk people around, it was your quote that got you bumped. It's a serious site and won't tolerate growling under the bridge.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            a serious site if you parrot nave q ueers views. he is more anti-American then top s hit

          • Roger says:

            There you go again.
            Just because they saw you for the same things I see you as, you lash out instead of wondering if perhaps they were right.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            What I said was truthful

          • Roger says:

            Insulting isn't factual, it's trolling.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Projecting again I see

          • Roger says:

            Pointing out the obvious is what you see, but I understand you're not going to admit it.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Your POV does not align with reality or facts

          • Roger says:

            Sure it does, even if you don't like it.

            It must be difficult for you, not being the supreme ruler of the universe.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I figured, who cares about getting banned from a site with a bunch of losers on it

          • Roger says:

            I hope you keep that in mind. Because I would imagine some day you may get banned at even more.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Prolly will and I wil get banned on purpose. You shoudl keep it mind as well since you have been banned from more sites than me

          • Roger says:

            You keep saying that. But I have been all over sites that have my values all morning.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Good for you and maybe you should stay at sites that share your communist goals and leave the Americans to this site

          • Roger says:

            I am, this site does share my values. Perhaps not all the people spamming the site, but are they even real people posting comments or just one or two trolls trying to target the site and diminish it?

            I think we both know the answer to that, even if you and your posse won't come out and admit it.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You hate this site or you would not engage in the endless back and forth with guests and stick to the topics and issues at hand.

          • Roger says:

            You may think so, but that doesn't make it so.

            And why are you spamming a site and why are all your cohorts spamming the site if you enjoy it so much?

          • VintageRoger says:

            Can't you even pretend to be here to discuss the story?

          • Roger says:

            Yes, but not when the posse is keeping me busy.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, but it has to be squeezed in between all the spams you post as a posse.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Oh my, there is still growling under that bridge.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, there is.

            He's sore for being banned at a site.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Is he?

            Why do you pretend you can decide that?

          • Roger says:

            Ask him that.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            ok

          • Roger says:

            He's probably busy growling under the bridge someplace.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well i asked him and of course you were wrong

          • Roger says:

            Nope, I wasn't. He mentioned today about my running to the moderator.

            He was trolling, the site doesn't tolerate it and he isn't there any more.

            It's not wrong, it's simple.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well he said he was not and I will have to go with what he says since you don't get to decide how others feel no matter how much you pretend you do

          • Roger says:

            Read your own words, the same applies to you. Wow, that must smart!

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You don't get to decide what applies to me

          • Roger says:

            And you don't get to decide what applies to me.

            It works both ways.

            That must smart!

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            But you think you can

          • Roger says:

            Unlike you I try to live by my own positions. So I don't do the double standard your posse does.

          • njmcc says:

            Well you're the expert on getting banned

            Maybe you'll try to sue me next, for being too intelligent for you

          • Roger says:

            All that growling, don't your ears hurt with all that racket under the bridge?

          • guest says:

            Are you living somewhere in a basement?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            His growling and troll comments are as lame as it gets. He actually thinks they are witty

          • Roger says:

            Nope, I'd rather be discussing Ukraine, but all the posse here just can't tolerate that kind of serious debate so here you are with a guest troll about basements.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Then go discuss it. You complain about the back and forth but actively participate in it

          • Roger says:

            I have been. You haven't been here this morning.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Yeah, I was on Belfast where you can't track or stalk me.But yet here you are engaing in the back and forth your cry about all day

          • Roger says:

            No, not unless you snuck over there with a profile they won't realize is you.

            Once they know it's you everything comes to a screeching halt.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well thats a lie. I am using a new WTE profile. Been over there all morning and not one comment pulled. So when you go looking for it have fun. I will change the name by then so you can't report all the comments like a c
            unt

          • Roger says:

            There weren't any there this morning.

            Want to prove it?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Sure were. You just couldn't find them but at least you showed you do stalk me and try to track me. No I will not let you know the profile becasue then you will report all the comments. I am not as dumb as you

          • Roger says:

            Nope, even if you think you're that important. I read the site stories periodically. Even if you pulled so amny comments that they banned you. And it isn't stalking if someone uses the features of a forum as they are designed for debate and discussion. Why do you keep calling it stalking when it doesn't meat meet the definition of the term? You stalked my comments here by your own definition. Why is it that you think you can stalk and I can't use the forum as it's designed?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Coming soon to you a law suit from the intrent troll.

            HE has been banned from so many sites I have lost count

          • Roger says:

            Almost as many as you have.

            And usually it was because you and the posse made such a ruccess we all got banned at the same time, like you were at Belfaste.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I have 3. You have at least 5 and I am not banned from Belfast

          • Roger says:

            Three that are still up and running. The others didn't survive the loose.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nope, only 3

          • Roger says:

            Really, do you still post on
            intense debate on Brietbart? Nope, they were spammed so much they changed formats.
            Your count is flawed since you wanted to arrive at a predetermined conclusion.

          • guest says:

            Why do you keep replying to the troll? You made empty promises in the past.

          • guest says:

            He was just waiting for u this morning.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            It's hard not to when you are constatly harrassed by him

          • Roger says:

            And it's not hard for me to reply to comments designed to harass me.(imo)

            See how that works?

          • Roger says:

            Why is a guest troll here spamming the place in the first place?

          • njmcc says:

            They are the ultimate – but very expensive

            I'm also toying with building my own pizza oven

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Let me know how that turns out. I cook out all the time. Have several charcoal grills, one gas grill, and wood and electric smoker. Each one has it own postives and negatives depending on what I am cooking

          • Roger says:

            And how much time you had to cook it.

            Some smokers, the longer you let something cook, the better they end up.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Cooked ribs for 7 hours. Usually do a turkey in 12 hours

          • Roger says:

            Some foods, poultry and fish you don't want to hurry.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I know, I cook alot. I dont need pointers

          • Roger says:

            Great, are you going to start a site for cooking tips next?

          • guest says:

            He already has one – it's called the Growl (named after the sound your tummy makes when you're hungry). You should leave some comments there.

          • Roger says:

            If you recommend it so much, why aren't you there? They even advertise on crags list so they can't be too picky.

          • Guest says:

            They're not too picky; yet your comments are removed. That must sting a bit.

          • Roger says:

            Not really, you seem stuck on the Growl. Did the way you got jerked sting?

          • Guest says:

            Do you like to imagine me being jerked?

          • Roger says:

            I prefer imagining you with your internet connection down and unable to pester us.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Who is the "us"? You mean all the people who post here and don't want you here? No one that posts here wants you here

          • Roger says:

            Us is the normal folks that don't spam the place. That would be everyone but your posse.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            So what is their screen names?

          • Roger says:

            I just told you. Is that too hard for you?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You did not give one name

          • Roger says:

            I gave you the location and first name of someone.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Where? Not on this site

          • Roger says:

            Yes on this site. I have you the story and the first name and he location of the comments.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Cooking for one is easy. Roger just uses his hand held can opener and opens a can of Spaghettiooos.

            It's not like he has a girlfriend to cook for.

          • Roger says:

            Spamming is easy for you. It's all you know.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Today I lift my ban on you. It has been one week since I called you a virgin directly.

            But be warned , you creepy virgin, haggard faced f u ck, if you don't beg me with snarky remarks properly, I will ban you for another week.

            You begged for my attention well last week, I'll give you that, but that only buys you so much.

          • Roger says:

            You are still the dung that Zebrano tossed from the growl.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            He banned your dung.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, that was you. You were the dung I tracked in.

            He was quite clear about it.

          • Guest says:

            There are only two ways to deal with a dung problem. You can continue to shovel the sh*t or you can get rid of the *ss. Zebrano chose to be efficient.

          • Roger says:

            And so you no longer post at the growl.

          • Guest says:

            Wow! Now Roger is a Master Chef. The Emeril Lagasse of the Internet.

          • Roger says:

            Wow, you imagine this site is supposed to be geared towards anything but current stories that the media ignores!

          • njmcc says:

            Will do!
            Sound like you're the man to know for recipes

            There is a book named after a London restaurant call ed Pit Cue and it is fantastic
            http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/179-3655

          • SUA says:

            A Weber is great for charcoal grilling but smoking, as is required to prepare tougher cuts like ribs, really benefit from a proper smoker with enough room to deliver indirect heat and thick enough walls to retain heat.

            Wee mentioned the Big Green Egg – I'd love to have one but they can be a bit pricey. I work with an old (as in made before production moved to China) Oklahoma Joe's smoker made from steel plate. Yard and estate sales are good sources.

            You can have good results smoking with a stamped metal grill like a Weber, you just have to be more diligent managing temps. If you go that route, I'd recommend putting some fire brick in the bottom to hold heat.

            Man, this is making me itchy to fire mine up. I did a few things over the winter but learned (I'm fairly new to this) that it can be hard to bring things up to temp when outside temperatures are in the low teens.

            If you really get into it, find someone with a fruit tree or hickory to give you a broken limb. We had a large hickory branch come down last year – there's something even more satisfying about smoking with wood that came from your own yard.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            BGE is expensive but well worth it

          • SUA says:

            I'm debating between replacing the Okie Joe's with one or having a shop weld a similar gauge smoke box for mine. My own welding skills are pretty rudimentary. I'm kind of partial to old stuff, so I'm leaning that direction.

            I've got a buddy with a Traeger that automatically dispenses the wood pellets so he can set and forget. While I enjoy the labor of love, I can see where that would be really nice for brisket that takes 14 hours.

          • njmcc says:

            Great tips thanks SUA

          • Roger says:

            Yes, and to think you came to this site for cooking tips.

            The author deserves better.

          • MonkeyBoy says:

            Speaking of food, here's some very unfortunate news for you…
            http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/fungus-t

          • Roger says:

            Why, because you want to use alinksy tactics and label me a monkey?

            Coming from the troll that won't or can't discuss anything of substance here at a serious news oriented site I'd say you're the one that knows your bananas.

          • Ginger says:

            You are somewhat comical and mildly entertaining. http://memedad.com/memes/29606.jpg

          • Roger says:

            And you, are not.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I think he/she is

          • Roger says:

            What you think is only your opinion.

            And I'm entitled to mine as well.

            You don't get to be the last final word on opinions. Just yours.

          • Guest says:

            If the author deserves better, why don't you take your own advice and leave?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Yep, this site wouold be better off without him

          • Roger says:

            I just think of the times when you're away from your terminal, like weekends when real debate still happens.

            When the posse of trolls isn't pouncing on this site as a gossip, comic, cooking site and how real discussion of the issues the site is geared towards actually still happen.

            The site needs to shake the trolls, and that isn't me.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            What terminal?

            So you are now calling Mr. Liberty a troll since he was discussing cooking with me.

            Debate never happens when you are around.

            Yes it does need to shake you

          • Roger says:

            You really are sounding desperate.

            Won't the site just curl up and die the way you want it too?

            And yes debate does well with me around on weekends without you and as much of your posse to pounce on it and spam the place.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Really? Show me a thread where debate happened with you last weekend on here. I went through all the stories and comments and none could be found.

            Like I said I love this site.

            So why did you call Mr. Liberty a troll?

          • Roger says:

            Why, are you afraid you missed a comment and want to insult them and spam it before they think of coming back?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nope, I went through them and you lied

          • Roger says:

            Nope, check the cattle graveyard story, I had a comment, Michael had a comment the guest piped up and the thread died.

            Wee, you are owned.
            You're just a hack filled with your own special poison. And the real world isn't very welcoming for you.

            Is that why your'e so angry and bitter?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Yep, I made a comment on the story, you stalked it and tried to derail the thread. I just ignored you. Not gonna allow you to wreck that one

          • Roger says:

            You really do pretend that, even while working to make sure it's not the case.

            You really are still threatened by this site, arent you?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            As i have said many times I love this site, you are the only problem with it

          • Roger says:

            Yes someone that points you out for the damage you're doing . Is it time for more recipes? How about discussions o south park?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Look and teh damage being done with the back and forth moron. What damages was caused by talking about food (which you discussed or tried to)

          • Roger says:

            The site is for a kind of news. When you spam the place and diminish that focus you disrespect the site admin an d authors.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Ok, but you got in the conversation and was quickly put in your place:
            18 hours ago @ Storyleak – Sochi Olympics Awarded… · 23 replies · -3 points

            And how much time you had to cook it.

            Some smokers, the longer you let something cook, the better they end up.

            You just showed you are a hypocrite

          • Roger says:

            The 'all the recipes you want site: Ah yes. This is the place everyoen knows they can count on fo rthat, and serious discussion of southpark characters.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You just don't understand humor or civil discussion between friends

          • Roger says:

            Yes, I do, and I have that too, but not at a site for serious nes, and not when there are important issues that the site is struggling to focus on. In that situation it's just spam.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            no you don't

          • Roger says:

            REally? Well see.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You just can't stand the fact that we all get along and civil discussion happens when you are not around. You're not welcome here

          • Roger says:

            As if that happens.

            You really ought to start a 'let's get alone and be civil while discussing south park, and cooking' kind of site.

            This one isn't it. And I'm welcome, just not wanted by the trolls spamming the place.

            I'm just one of those people that like the stores and want to discuss them, one of the few you haven't driven off.

            Why does this site threaten you and your posse so badly?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Welcome by who? Name one regular poster that wants you on this site?

            Not one person who posts here regualary wants you here.

            We can discuss what we want and if you have aproblem with that don't read it. It's an open forum and you just can't stand the fact that we all get along and you are an outcast who trolls this site.

            You target this site with your posse. I love this site the only problem with it is YOU

          • Roger says:

            Name one that you allow to post actual debate without spamming them?

            Oh, is it time for more recipes?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Tried on the BLM Cattle one until you came in and wrecked it.

            Now name one regular poster on here that wants you around?

            I answered yours but you never answer mine.

            Typical

          • Roger says:

            Why, you need to get to the very last ones before they want to invite their friends to come and actually debate the stories?

            Wee, you aren't as subtle as you think you are.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            So name one person that wants here?

          • Roger says:

            That's left by the time you and you cadre of trolls has spammed the place for months?

            It's sad, so many decent people have jumped ship, just as you and your agenda have wanted.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            So can you name one person who posts here regualry that wants you here?

            You have avoided this question multiple times so pretty sure everyone gets the hint

          • Roger says:

            That you haven't driven off with months of spamming and verbal insults?

            I explained when you first targeted the site what your posse and it's agenda was about here.

            Yet you haven't moved on to the next site, why does this one still threaten you so much? Is it because they still generate good stories?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You didn't explain crap. You pretend to explaion things which are usually lies.

            I love this site and I am not leaving. When I do leave sites it's to try and get away from you, but continue to stalk me. But this site has some great people that enjoy t alking with

          • Roger says:

            Oh my, the troll is lashing out. I'm so shocked. And you still can't totally destroy this site.

            No wonder you're in such a terrible mood today.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Why do you think you can pretend I am a troll and I am in a bad mood?

            Thanks for the comedic relief

          • Roger says:

            Relief is when you get off hte clock and leave for the day.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            this may come as a suprise to you but I have not punched a clock in years. I get a salary, so make up another lie

          • Roger says:

            You must have a flexible schedule at that work terminal, monday through firday with weekends and holidays off.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I don't have a work treminal moron. Yes I do have weekends and holidays off like most people. I know your handlers make you stay on ID 24/7

          • Roger says:

            Wee, the fact is you post here from monday-friday with weekends off and holidays off. That speaks for itself.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I spend weekends and holidayds with real people and family. YOu ar

          • Roger says:

            They schedule you away from teh terminal on weeknds, I know.

          • guest says:

            So you celebrated Easter on ID? Is that what Christians do? WOW!

          • Roger says:

            So, you spam the place days after easter. Is that what trolls do?

          • guest says:

            You are a holiday and a daily spammer and stalker. Nobody wants you here. We should get Zeb here as a moderator. You would be history instantly.

          • Roger says:

            The posse still isn't done diminishing this site, is it?

            Why is it such a threat to this group of trolls?

            Is it that it still uncovers the kind of stories this muslim friendly administration wants buried?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            He is on ID all holidays.

            Pretty pathetic

          • Roger says:

            You are here to spam and diminish debate on good sites, pretty pathetic.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nope, that is your agenda.

          • Roger says:

            The only thing wrong with that, is tha t it's wrong.

            The great sites you were tossed from are places I can actually find people to debate and discuss things with.

            You of course call those patriots communists and insult them from afar.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You mean RF and CVN? Yeah great sites filled with pathetic losers who hate this country. YOu have been banned from way more than me

          • Roger says:

            See, you jus tinseled great patriots. It's all you know.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Thye are not patriots. They ban people for expressing free speech

          • Roger says:

            Real speech they love. Spamming they won't tolerate.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            They ban anyone who disagrees with them. That is not loving free speech

          • Roger says:

            They don't ban real speech, they ban trolls that spam the place with clutter that just gets tossed like mud.

            You didn't really discuss much, you just went to insult people. IMO.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            oh thats right you decide what is real speech and what is not I forgot you are in charge of the internet

          • Roger says:

            Facts are what they are. You don't get to decide them. And the moderator knows what facts are, so your growling under the bridge got you bumped.

          • njmcc says:

            So if the author deserves better why did you post the following in response to TheNEwsMadd?

            "Some smokers, the longer you let something cook, the better they end up"

            "Some foods, poultry and fish you don't want to hurry."

            Were those bananas just so tasty you couldn't help yourself?

          • Roger says:

            It sure sounds like there are lots of growls coming from under that bridge.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You gonna complain about us talking about food again:

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            Roger 173p · 19 hours ago

            Some foods, poultry and fish you don't want to hurry.

          • Roger says:

            This site isn't for food discussion, not unless the story is about that.

            There are places that are focused on food. Here? It's just more of the posse spam to clog the real debate.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Then why are you talking about food you f u ck i ng hypocrite?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You don't get to decide what the site is for and you had no problem talking about food yesterday hypocrite

          • Roger says:

            The site is defined at the home page.

            Don't blame me.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            It sure and no where does it say we are not allowed to have humor or discuss grilling

          • Roger says:

            And no where is it a cooking site. It's not even an cartoon site.

            Serious news stories the media wants to ignore.

            It seems simple to me.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            So where does it say no one is allowed to laugh or discuss grilling?

          • Roger says:

            Where does it invite it? It does invite discussion of the story above.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            If they don't state it's not ok to discuss freely about whatever subject the story takes you on, then it is inviting you to discuss freely.

            You don't own
            n this site, so you go go play Hide and Go F U C K yourself.

            And there isn't a god damn thing you can do about it.

          • Roger says:

            They state what they are here for.

            If you don't like it, too bad.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            And we are following what they are here for, stupid,

            So you can't do crap.

          • Roger says:

            Nope, you're here doing that posse agenda.

            And it is up to the site admins to do something about it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            They read though all your BS reports and they removed the report button to shut your stupid a s s up. They needed no further action, stupid.

          • Roger says:

            Or, you could tell the truth and say that since I had to repost my comments up to 800 times they were tired of the trolls that spam the place deleting quality comments.

            Why not be honest?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You posted something 800 times????? Please tell me you are that f uc k ing OCD.

          • Roger says:

            The posse pulled a comment 800 times, so, are you the troll that is that OCD?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Deleting your comments 800 times is hilarious, reposting them 800 times is f u c j i n g sad. Get a girlfriend for christ's sake.

          • Roger says:

            A troll might think pulling comments 800p times is funny, some would consider it worse than spamming. It wasn't the trolls site to moderate by report button. And who ever it was deserves to be be banned.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Why do you think you can decide what people discuss and what is allowed and what is not allowed. No one says you have to reply to every single comment like a creep. If you don't like us having an American sense of humor and discussing some grilling then don't read it. Pretty simple

          • Roger says:

            You do that with all my comments.

            TNM/WTE, you take it upon yourself to declare all my comments don't belong here, so for you to make that comment is rather laden with irony.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Isn't cattle food? The last two weeks this site has been about how that food is produced.

          • Roger says:

            Not on this story.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You haven't shown that the owners of this site care if we discuss the Bundy Ranch on this story.

          • Roger says:

            This may be confusing for you.

            I know, it's a huge leap in your thinking. But they have a story for the bunny discussion. This isn't it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You haven't shown this is not the place for it. Or that the owners of this site think it's not the place for it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            No, you just tried to dictate the rules that you made up on your own.

          • Roger says:

            I just did.
            If you don't like it, don't blame me for explaining the unpleasant facts.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            He always does

          • Roger says:

            Like you and the posse?

            Nope and you don't get to decide why my being factual is spin.

            Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you don't get to tell them what it has to be.

            That only works with your posse.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You are never factual and only use your opinion. When you are challenged you change the question or subject

          • Roger says:

            Sure I am. Is theis were you try saying Christmas isnt' bout Christ?

          • Roger says:

            If you don't want to celebrate Christmas then don't. But if you don't want to celebrate the religious aspects then just called it the winter solstice celebration and be honest about it.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I will call it whatever I want, you don't get to make those demands. Merry Christmas. I usually call Easter jesus zombie day

          • Roger says:

            And that doesn't make it accurate, it means you don't care if your comments actually mean anything and it goes to why you credibility is so compromised.

            You simply say anything you want regardless of it's accuracy.

            And I camn say that Chrisitmas is a holiday for Christians and you simply enjoy the day and don't really celebrate it as it was designed to be observed.

            And that's your choice ,but don't pretend you are celebrating Christmas. You simp;ly have a random day that could be called anything.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            It;s ok for him to do it, just no one else. Come roger thinks he is in charge of the internet.

            Had a great discussion on Belfast this morning.

          • Roger says:

            What happened, you had to run and hide since you don't like someone explaining why I don't agree with your flawed positions?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nope, not hiding. Just not gonna let you moderate by the report button

          • Roger says:

            You like that control, why deny it?

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Now you're projecting

          • Roger says:

            I'm not the one that pulled my own comments 800 times on this site.

            Your posse was.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well I didn't nor would I be pathetic enough to post the same dumb comment 800 times

          • Roger says:

            So you have your cadre of characters to do your dirty work.

            Either way debate is limited by those here to push an agenda of limiting debate.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Nope, once again you are confusing reality with real life

          • Roger says:

            Once again I am what? I think that reality and real life should converge, don't you?

          • SUA says:

            Wee, have you tried cold smoking (great for cheese, peppers and paprika)? I found a page online that showed how to do it with a soldering iron, tin can and wood chips. The paprika chicken and smoked mozarella pasta salad were the bomb.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Actually I never heard of it but you can bet I will look it up now. Thanks

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Thank you SUA!!

          • Roger says:

            Yes, I just knew that recipe time would come up sooner or later

            So much for Ukraine being tossed to the bears.

          • Roger says:

            Then you're using the Christian holiday as an excuse.

          • Roger says:

            There has been pagan celebrations during spring.

            Easter is a celebration of Christ's resurrection. If you don't like it, don't blame me.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Depends on who you ask. christians say it is, pagans use it for themselves. So it just depends

          • Roger says:

            Spring festivals have been for pagans, easter is a Christian holiday.
            I don't tell pagans how they're allowed to use a maypole and they don't get to tell me what my holidays are for.

          • njmcc says:

            So why is Easter's date dictated by the pattern of the moon?

            Sounds pretty Pagan to me

          • Roger says:

            God can set up His passover anyway He wants. Moses was told to do it that way and moses did.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Because it is Pagan

          • Roger says:

            There are aspects of tradition for spring festivals still used, but Christ rising from the dead is the core of Christian Easter services.

            Even if you don't want to admit it.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            The core of chriostian easter service. Thats fine but don't pretend you can decide how non christians celebrate Easter. You already tried that

          • Roger says:

            Easter is celebrating the risen Savior. If you aren' t celebrating it, then you're just having fun on a day and mislabeling it.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Not according to real histroy

          • Roger says:

            Yes according to real history.

            Back to the day that day after passover when they found the empty tomb.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well once you present undeniable documented evidence and facts your comment holds no water

          • Roger says:

            Church history has that. It's been presented to you dozens of times by all sorts of people who actually took you seriously. That didn't last very long.

            Your bigotry holds no water and you offer no proof that any of it is false.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Their is none. No undeniable evidence that proves god is real. 0 zilch nothing

          • Roger says:

            Wow, that's a debate stopper for the issue of Ukraine.

            You just can't put the agenda aside long enough to pretend, can you?

          • SUA says:

            An excuse to revel in Spring's rebirth with family and friends? Sounds to me like a step in the right direction.

            Wee has some bias against religion in general and Christianity in particular that are not entirely unfounded. You have made the excellent point that the perpetrators of such acts do not behave in accordance with The Word.

            He has a mind and free will. He will not be coerced. In fact, none of us will – it's why we frequent sites such as this. Understanding that, aren't we better to extend our hand in fellowship than to deliver a verbal dope slap?

            I'm not pretending to be better than you – I have been quite rude to you. I am willing to grow, though. Are you?

            Wee will make up his own mind, as we all will. It's not my job to pass judgemet on him or anyone else.

          • Roger says:

            It doesn't appear they want you to be reasonable.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Well said SUA. We as Christians are taught to try and bring fellowship, not to judge and put others down. All Roger needs to do is study the Gospel and he would understand.

          • Roger says:

            I have, and I'm taught to shake the dust off my feet and not to throw pearls to swine.

          • guest says:

            But that's what you do, every day, every minute

          • Roger says:

            Nope, these aren't the best pearls.

            This is just turning on the light and hoping the bugs scurry away.

          • guest says:

            I feel sorry for your ID addiction.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, it sure puts a crimp in your posse when you target sites.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            I suggest that you ask God if your heart is in the right place brother. I will pray for you too. You seem too angry for someone who claims that they are walking close with God. You get mad at people like Wee but you fail to see the devil's work within our own government, culture, CHURCHS, and pretty much everywhere across the world.

            You seem to think you are better than everyone else. Got too much pride, and remember that pride comes before the fall.

          • Roger says:

            Since Alinsky claims to be Mr. Liberty and this was not posted from a real profile I'm not sure it deserves an answer.

            But I will anyhow.

            Show me any hero from the Bible that didn't defend their values.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            The apostle peter denied Jesus three times.

          • Roger says:

            And unlike islam he wasn't stoned or had his head chopped off.

            He went on to defend the personal relationship and values he cherished.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            He would have been stoned by the jews if he had not denied Jesus.

          • Roger says:

            Perhaps but perhaps not.

            There was another disciple in the courtyard openly supporting Jesus that was left alone.

            John 18:15.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Which goes to show that it is very difficult to stand up for your beliefs, it is human nature to save your own ass.

          • Roger says:

            And how God loved Peter when he was sorry for it.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            You know it was me Roger. It is FINE to defend you beliefs! I never said it wasn't, but defend with LOVE not HATE. I feel like a broken record.

            PS I have yet to see a post under my name that I did not say. If I have missed one let me know and I will validate.

          • Roger says:

            Alinsky said he was you.

            3 days ago @ Storyleak – Michigan Police Take O… · 0 replies · +4 points
            "Yet he doesn't think Liberty is me.

            He is a liar."

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            And you don't believe he is me. You lie when you say the folks using the guest profiles are all me.

          • Roger says:

            Still spamming the place?

          • SUA says:

            Roger, Alinsky did not claim it. He pointed out that you accuse any guest poster whom you don't agree with of being Alinsky, yet you don't make the same accusations of Liberty.

            Then Mr. Liberty challenged you directly and suddenly the accusation flies. You've proven Alinsky's point directly.

            Anger and pride don't suit you. Chill out.

          • Roger says:

            Really?

            It wasn't the only comment.

            3 days ago @ Storyleak – Wash. State School Dis… · 0 replies · +3 points
            ""As long as Liberty/Alinsky doesn't say mean things to him, he would rather mark him down as a friend."

            3 days ago @ Storyleak – Wash. State School Dis… · 2 replies · +3 points
            "Liberty doesn't say mean things to Roger."

            When you don't know what you're talking about and lash out you sound like that growling under the bridge too.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            He said you were a troll since we were discussing cooking yesterday, even though he discussed it to.

            He just needs ignored by everyone

          • Roger says:

            I said this site has a focus of news the media won't cover and cooking and south park chatter isn't part of that.

            I suggested if you wanted that kind of site you could find one and leave this one alone so it could recover from your posse and all the spamming you've done here with your cadre of characters.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            The news didn't cover what Wee and Liberty cooked for Easter, that was news.

          • Roger says:

            Was it? For those wanting to diminish the site into trivial instead of important topics of importance.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            We all have discussed the issues of the article before those conversations start. If you don't want to participate in those convos then don't! But you did in the cooking one so that makes you a hypocrite.

            PS it is ok to have a little fun once in awhile.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, and the posse is having fun.
            Ooops, that's not so Okay for the site infested with them.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You haven't shown it's not o.k.

          • Roger says:

            You haven't shown this site wants all your spam.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            You have not shown anyone is spamming except you

          • Roger says:

            Sure I have.

            Your last comment is a typical example of your spamming the sites with insults and making sure no actual debate on the story occurs.

            That agenda drives you.

          • Guest says:

            Alinsky, you are nuts.
            At least from the neck down………..

          • Roger says:

            That's one polite way of saying it.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Well said Mr. Liberty

          • Roger says:

            And you sure do want to derail it is quickly as you can.

            The agenda, boy you're persistent.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Your last comment is a typical example of your spamming the sites with insults and making sure no actual debate on the story occurs.

            That agenda drives you.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, pointing out that there are people wanting to stop debate.

            When was the last time you even mentioned Ukraine?

          • Roger says:

            Yes, but thankfully that agenda is geared towards facts and issues.

            Not just clogging and spamming great sites.

          • Roger says:

            Poor WTE, according to the definitions you laid out yesterday you just trolled.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            I TheNewsMadd

          • Roger says:

            If the news makes you so mad, why not go to that cooking site and not get so mad?

          • guest says:

            What did you eat on Easter? Keyboards?

          • guest says:

            Spare keyboards?

          • Roger says:

            Do keyboards taste good under the bridge?

          • guest says:

            You should know, you lick them 24/7

          • Roger says:

            Why bless your heart. You down under that bridge don't have a clue how the real people live, do you?

  11. Seen2013 says:

    It rather reminds me of when original Diplomacy members fear and react more to the Russo-Turkish alliance; Austria-Hungary certainly should fear Russo-Turkish more than any other power in Diplomacy's pre-world war I Europe; their most natural path of expansion inevitably runs straight through Austria. Italy would be playing a very dangerous game to commit to dismantling the Austrian-Hungarian Empire; Russo-Turkey truly picks up the moment/tempo in the balance of power with after Austria's demise. In contrast, Anglo-Franco is just as deadly, but it doesn't nearly gets the reaction particularly since Russo-Turkish tends to force an Anglo-Franco-German alliance to counter instead of simply stalemate it. One lesson Diplomacy reinforces in real life is action's aka military movements speak louder than words if Russia and Turkey only bounce in the Black Sea, moves Army Moscow-Ukraine, and Turkey leaves Smynra vacant chances are Russia and Turkey aren't so hostile after all. Similarly, the best defense requires leaving a border guard to keep your neighbor honest, and you can count on if you provide a present ally too much positioning chances are a stab in the back can result. Chess has nowhere near the diplomatic intrigue Diplomacy has. Given Putin's history and actions, he saw the stab coming a mile away; the other possibility is Putin was passed the agenda, which isn't uncommon in Diplomacy either most players will do that or make a player playing one of the great powers like Austria-Hungary paranoid.

  12. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Roger @ Storyleak – Sochi Olympics Awarded… 2 minutes ago · 0 replies · +1 points

    it has to be squeezed

  13. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Great story about the Beef Mafia.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/22/jon-stew

  14. SUA says:

    All this "growling under the bridge" is making me hungry. Anyone have a good recipe for chicken?

  15. marabiton says:

    This story reminds me of Froghorn Leghorn talking to his buddy Chickenhawk;
    "I say, I say there son, I see ya choppin', but I don't see no chips a flyin'."

    Lots of suspicion but no facts to back any of it up. Maybe it was in the numerous links but the story was so thin, I didn't find it compelling enough to chase any of it down. You may be dead-on right but the lead is weak.

  16. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Why aren't you answering the question?

    You creepy virgin.

  17. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Why can't you answer a question that exposes your lies?

    You divorced virgin.

  18. Roger says:

    Why are you spamming the place with insults?

  19. Roger says:

    Why are you here spamming the site with insults?

  20. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Because you are a liar, and it needs to be said. You talked about food, and then condemn others for doing ti.

    I have also seen you post South Park clips on these threads.

  21. TheNewsMadd says:

    More cut and paste?

  22. Roger says:

    You are entitled to your opinions of course.

    But this is a serious site focused on important news that the media wants ignored.

    And you have seen me do lots of things, but spamming a site to keep it form it's mission isn't one of them.

    And you still keep on spamming the place.

  23. Roger says:

    It's all some people deserve, when they get an answer and ignore it, then repeating it until they realize it's really the answer is all you can do with them.

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