The Real 800 Pound Gorilla That Controls The Realm

February 26th, 2014
Updated 05/01/2014 at 3:13 pm


The Government-Corporate Complex Takes Complete Control Of The USA

No one can deny the effects that the Military-Industrial Complex (MIC) has had on the United States of America.  President Dwight D. Eisenhower aptly warned the world what would inevitably develop when any nation commits itself to a perpetual war economy. Or, maintains such a large military during peacetime.

However, very few understand that the MIC was only one component of a much larger complex now known as the Government-Corporate Complex.  Truly, it is the Government-Corporate Complex (GCC) which poses a much greater threat to world peace and social order, global financial security and economic stability, as well as the integrity of the biosphere and environmental protection.

Was the Military-Industrial Complex actually a red herring?

Studying the MIC as a microcosm of the GCC can be quite instructive and revealing about how the much bigger GCC entity operates throughout the world today. It it true that even in times of relative peace, the MIC does everything within its power to ensure it’s prosperity, just as the Department of Defense (read War) does everything to ensure its survival during periods without war.  In so doing, the MIC has been hard-wired from its very inception to guarantee the millions employed by the countless defense-related industries and services a paycheck, no matter what the prospects for war-making.  Which is one of the primary reasons why so much enthusiastic support for all things military has always reigned supreme in the political process of the USA.  And so it will for the foreseeable future. 

However, there is a much more profound reason about how and why the USA was destined to become the “Military Arm of the New World Order“.  The very notion of the Military-Industrial Complex was first publicized as both a diversion away from as well as an unwitting clue about the “real 800 pound gorilla” that has been clandestinely flexing its muscles across the planet for many decades, if not centuries.

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800 pound gorilla” is an American English expression for a person or organization so powerful that it can act without regard to the rights of others or the law. The phrase is rooted in a riddle:

“Where does an 800 lb. gorilla sit?”

The answer:

“Anywhere it wants to.”

This highlights the disparity of power between the “800 lb. gorilla” and everything else.

The term can describe a powerful geopolitical and military force, or, in business, a powerful corporate entity that has such a large majority percentage of whatever market they compete within that they can use that strength to crush would-be competitors.  (Source: Wikipedia)

When The Government Colludes With The Corporate Titans –> FASCISM

With the chartering of the very first corporations in the USA came the purposeful and inexorable development of the Government-Corporate Complex.  Today, the resulting fascist corporatocracy exerts its power in civil society throughout every sphere of life.  In matters of law and order, and war and peace, this “800 pound gorilla” acts with an impunity that rivals the imperialism of Rome*.

The ever-present fasces of the Roman Empire were paraded throughout the far reaches of the empire, wherever naked and brutal force was required to keep the newly conquered kingdoms and tribes in check. The very same “bound bundle of wooden rods with protruding axe-blade” sits right on the front wall behind the podium (two fasces on either side) in the main chamber of the US House of Representatives in the nation’s capital.


*The term fascismo is derived from the Latin word fasces.[15] The fasces, which consisted of a bundle of rods that were tied around an axe,[16] was an ancient Roman symbol of the authority of the civic magistrate.[17] They were carried by his lictors and could be used for corporal and capital punishment at his command.[18][19] The word fascismo also relates to political organizations in Italy known as fasci, groups similar to guilds or syndicates.
(Source: Wikipedia)

Just in case you can’t identify the two fasces on either side of the podium, here’s some assistance.


Doesn’t this beg the question as to why such a prominent symbol behind the Speaker’s podium in the House Chamber is the same as that of Imperial Rome?

In case you can’t recognize the various elements in the fasces, each one has a quite imposing axehead protruding from the very top of the bundle of sticks.  The entire ax can be seen clearly in the photo below.


We don’t mean to belabor this subject, but the fasces does represent the manner in which the US Federal Government now imposes its will on its citizens at home, as well as on numerous conquered nations abroad.  In short the current and previous US Administrations have been viewed in the same light as those of the hegemonic British Empire, as well as the Imperial ‘Holy’ Roman Empire.

The Constitutional Republic of the USA, in fact, has deeps roots sunk into both of these centuries-old forms of governance, as we are all instructed as young students.  What is not taught, however, is the extent to which the actual power structure of the US Government mimics the most tyrannical aspects of Imperial Rome and despotic tendencies of the more recent British Empire.

This 800 Pound Gorilla Really Knows How To Swing An Axe

Perhaps it is now much easier to comprehend the quite formidable foe of the people which results when the government works in close tandem with the corporate sector.   Truly, these two entities do represent a fearsome tandem, especially when they combine forces in such a deliberate and coordinated manner. Who, or what, can possibly stop such a Goliath?  Who would dare when all the Davids (people like Edward Snowden) are literally “run out of town” … forever.

The government side of this modern-day Goliath is, of course, collectively represented by the POTUS, SCOTUS, CONGRESS, NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI, Pentagon, etc.  As a conglomerate of various institutions, agencies and organs of government, the US Corporation does interpenetrate every major corporate entity in the USA.  The revolving door between all the major corporations and the government sector is well known and well documented.  With the beginning of each newly elected US administration, the number of CEOs and other corporate officers who are chosen to fill regulatory positions of the very industries they came from is quite shocking.  It has become expected that the “fox is now always guarding the hen house” throughout the Executive Branch of American Government.

Given the current state of affairs of campaign finance, lobbyists and their corporate overlords control the legislative process in way that is equally stunning.  That the healthcare lobbyists actually wrote the Affordable Care Act is the most egregious example of how the US Federal Government has been completely taken over.  Obamacare  represents the quintessential example of the Government-Corporate Complex at work.  As the most flawed piece of legislation in US history, Obamacare has consistently eluded those who know it must be repealed.  Even powerful senators and corporate titans who have demonstrated how it will bankrupt America are powerless to annul such a cost-prohibitive, overwhelmingly inefficient, and profoundly defective law.

Just as interlocking directorships ensure a very collegial and crony-like club among all the major corporations of the world, the governmental organs of the USA walk in lockstep with every other cooperative government around the world when circumstances necessitates, or the modern emperors dictate.  In virtually every case of transnational collaboration, it should be noted that it is the government’s business that is being conducted, not the people’s.

As an example, there have been numerous occasions where the US Government has worked hand-in-hand with the UK Monarchy, especially the British Crown, Parliament, MI5, MI6, Scotland Yard, etc., as well as with many of the other Western Powers (read NATO).  The highly protested Iraq War was a perfect example of one nation giving unlawful cover for another nation (UK provided cover for the US).  This ever-morphing international arrangement permits several of the most powerful nations to project their military power with little or no threat from the weaker nations or their leaders.

When looked at in the aggregate, it is as though the Government-Corporate Complex has taken the form an octopus wrapping itself around the entire globe.  It has, in fact, become a monolithic, amorphous superstructure of global power that answers to none one.  Although it’s true structure and organization can only be conjectured, a World Shadow Government surely exists that oversees the national governments of the world.  Even at that ultra-classified level of secrecy, the movement between high level government service and corporate leadership is a fact of life.

Because of the ever-revolving doors over may decades between public service and the corporate arena, these two major sectors of society have become not only inseparable, but also exceedingly aligned in both purpose and the execution of shared agendas.  This is where the real problems begins.  Especially to the extent that the Government-Corporate Complex interests are not properly aligned with those of the citizenry, does this problem have the potential to become greatly exacerbated and nettlesome for the governed.

In the case of those living in the USA in 2014 and beyond, it’s clear that the will of the people has never been so disrespected and scorned (taxation with virtually no representation), as the people themselves have been openly abused and victimized (think TSA body scans, Tasers without provocation, Childhood vaccination regimes, Chemtrail spraying everywhere, Smart meters without approval, Fluoride put into the water supplies, etc.)


Weapons of Choice of the Government-Corporate Complex

“Whereas Corporations use the impervious “Shield of Limited Liability” with great effect, it is their “Deep Coffers of Influence-Peddling” that allow them to serve their narrow and selfish interests with virtual impunity.  The Government, on the other hand, uses the “Threat of Criminal Prosecution“, “Predatory Taxation” and “Oppressive Laws” to keep the citizenry from straying from the reservation.”
~ State of the Nation

This convenient marriage between the government and the corporations has truly become the greatest bane of post-modern existence.  The viability of life on Earth is more at stake than ever because of how the biosphere is manipulated by those few who sit at the very peak of the pyramid of the globalist’s World Shadow Government (WSG).  These global controllers, by and large, directly oversee all the major corporations and most powerful governments across the planet.  Their wish is everyone else’s command, and they will not brook any opposition to their government/corporate agendas or interference with their extra-national political plans … anywhere or anytime.

It is through the absolutist, top-down, fear-driven dynamic of exercising fascist power by which every large corporate entities can be easily controlled from the very pinnacle of the World Shadow Government.  Each and every corporate entity can be easily controlled when faced with the threat of either federal or state prosecution.  Likewise, they can be corralled into a pen of the government’s making through selective predatory taxation and oppressive legislation unfavorable to their industry or business.


Click on diagram to ENLARGE.

Control the President, CEO, and/or Board of Directors of any corporation (or large organization) and you control all of the subordinates below.

This very same principle is what empowered the Roman legions to conquer and maintain control over so many lands.  Ditto that for the Hellenic (Greek) Empire of Alexander the Great, as well as the various Pharaonic Dynasties of Egypt.  This control matrix is based on a number of simple equations and formulae which have been utilized since time immemorial to rule the masses.  Hierarchies of power and control have forever been built into organizations that are structured to exert absolute authority within any given society or nation.

The primary equation, which operates 24/7 within virtually every the control matrix on Planet Earth today, looks like this.  Confer absolute authority upon the top positions of any corporation or government agency, and offer a compensation package which makes it extremely difficult for those in charge to leave the reservation.  When CEO comp schemes are looked at closely, it becomes clear that each element is designed to ensure unquestioning compliance … with the dictates of those who really run Corporate America.

Golden parachutes and golden handcuffs, as they are known, include exceptionally attractive financial incentives to play the corporate game all the way to retirement.  Stock options, deferred compensation, various bonus and incentive plans, company perks such as free housing, transportation, vacations, dining, etc. can add up to substantial sums of money.  Each of these components of executive compensation contributes to the current culture of universal CEO compliance.  When the actual CEO compensations schemes are calculated accurately, it will be understood that they even exceed the obscene pay packages that have been trumpeted by the OCCUPY movement!

CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report

Once this simple compensation dynamic is firmly put into place, all the direct reports to the President or CEO, Agency Director or Cabinet Secretary, must follow obey the leader.  Not to do so jeopardizes one’s job, one’s career, one’s entire future.  It particularly endangers one’s income stream which one is accustomed to.  Once pampered or spoiled by life’s luxuries, it is ever so difficult to relinquish them for a life of mediocrity or worse.

If these carrots don’t work with a rogue corporate leader, there is always the threat of criminal prosecution for real or fabricated charges which can be trumped up for effect anytime the State Attorney wants to do so.  You’ve heard the phrase that any Grand Jury in America can, and will, “indict a ham sandwich” if the DA wants it to.  Well, it’s entirely true, and it happen every day of the week.  Politically motivated prosecutions have, in fact, become so commonplace that they serve to keep everyone (we mean Everyone on the  planet) watching in check.


Corporatization of the marketplace has exposed everyone to the same threats and risks. Globalization has likewise created new fears and anxieties.  

Herein lies the most potent force in the enforcement of and discipline found within pyramidal power structures across the planet.  Fear of not being able to meet the most basic needs of life hounds almost everyone at some point of their lives.  This primordial fear is so profound and hardwired into human existence that it is easily used as a tool of control and manipulation.  Hence, we see both the Hegelian Dialectic and Divide and Conquer strategies of the elites employing this basic principle with awesome effect, wherever and however they choose to implement them.

As a means of control of all publicly held corporations, these enforcement measures can be taken whenever necessary by those who truly control the Corporatocracy.  As previously stated, all the real controllers have to do is exert maximum control over the President or CEO or Board Chairman.  Once this is accomplished, the real controllers can keep the thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of other corporate employees in check.  The MO is quite simple:  No compliance; no paycheck.  Isn’t that how everyone across corporate America is kept in check everywhere … 24/7?   Now that’s human resource leverage!

In this way those globalists (read Gorillas) “who truly control the realm” don’t really have to throw their weight around or beat their chests very much.  All the disciplinary actions and intermittent firings, demotions and reassignments, downsizings and consolidations, mergers and acquisitions, divestments and realignments, etc.  are left up to just a few corporate officers to approve and duly execute.  If an employee’s ‘infraction’ or insubordination or whistle-blowing is a serious one, the individual may never receive a good reference in the same business or industry again.  Being blackballed like this is also used with equal effect throughout all the professional associations such as the ABA, AMA, ADA, APA and AAA.  Those are the certifying bodies with the relevant control mechanisms in place for law, medical, dental, psychiatric, and accounting respectively.

On the macro level, globalization has subjected every nation and state, province and city, business and industry, corporation and company to extraordinary pressures and risks.  With the passage of new legislation or cancellation of old trade agreements, any given marketplace can be rearranged in a New York minute, as they so often are.  The “800 pound corporate gorilla” is usually the immediate beneficiary of these swift or slow changes in law that lobbyists have often written from beginning to end.  As an example, an organic farmer in South Georgia can be put out of business in a day and a night if the farmer next door is planting Monsanto GMO seeds of the same crop.

There are so many other threats that rampant corporatization of the marketplace has created that it is beyond the scope of this essay to further explore.  As a blatant example, however, of how much can go awry, one need look no further than the continuing Walmart saga of small town destruction to understand the far-reaching ramifications to Main Street, America.  Here is how one commentator put it when examining some of the few repercussions of corporate destruction on a vulnerable nation such as India.

“Let’s pick a country.  Let’s go to India and visit Bhopal of Union Carbide fame.  Close to 8000 people died within two weeks of that December day in 1984 in what is known as the worst industrial disaster of the last century.  Now that Dow Chemical owns Union Carbide, you can only imagine the veritable phalanx of attorneys who are paid unconscionable fees to ensure proper responsibility and accountability will never be assumed by their master.

Or let’s visit the Punjab and talk to the thousands of widows of farmers who committed suicide because of Monsanto’s “seedless seeds”.   Or go to just about anywhere on that subcontinent where a Walmart is being protested for land theft, encroachment and despoilation.   Let’s not forget about all the Coca Cola bottling plants that have become notorious for stealing the most precious commodity that every Indian cherishes and covets – WATER.  Well, that takes care of land, water, air … and blood.  What else in heaven’s name do these stakeholders want?!”[1]


World War I, The Great Depression and World War II Consolidated the Power of the Fascist Corporatocracy

The entire 20th century was primarily about one thing.  Each one of these three extremely cataclysmic events served to put into place the various political, economic and social constructs that would come to define the New World Order (NWO).  While many are still waiting for the NWO to appear in living color on the world stage, they fail to realize that its cornerstone was actually put into place in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act.  With that single stroke of the pen were the American people turned into debt slaves, unknowingly beholden to the emerging fascist corporatocracy at every turn.  Haven’t sticks (read fasces) always been used to keep slaves in line?!

Many readers may be aware of the Albert Pike letter which predicted not only the first two world wars, but also a third.  Most of the same folks are waiting for a World War III, not realizing that it is happening all over the world, 24/7.  What else would one call the state of the Middle East to include Iraq, Syria, Iran, Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, if not a regional war zone.  Then there is Afghanistan, Pakistan, Burma (aka Myanmar), and Thailand.  How else would one label the state of affairs in the Ukraine, Venezuela, Argentina, Mexico and Brazil?  We already saw what happened to Yugoslavia and Albania.

The only difference this time around is that the globalists will refrain from calling it World War 3.  It’s a lot easier to conduct a world war without anyone knowing that it just may be coming to a neighborhood near them.  This incremental approach has permitted them to put the right pieces on the chessboard exactly where they need to be before they execute their planned checkmates … just like they did in the Ukraine last week.  In this way the new New World Order is advanced via a “new and improved” internet-based control matrix, with such stealth and deception, many of the populations are merrily going with the flow.  This is what happens when London financiers conspire with Wall Street Brokers; Madison Avenue admen collude with Washington DC politicos; and Hollywood movie producers collaborate with the Military-Industrial Complex.

Military Industrial Complex cartoon

All CORPORATIONs Must Be Re-Chartered With Mandated Social Responsibility And The Contratual Promise Of Environmental Protection

Clearly, the business entity known as the Corporation must be overhauled if there is to be  an emancipation from our modern form of debt slavery and smothering political (aka corporate-imposed) correctness.  All publicly held corporations possess the same fatal flaws that can be exploited at any time by those who have the power and knowhow.  With the rapid evolution of derivative-based hedge funds and computer-driven investment brokerage,  corporate raiders, venture capitalists, private equity fund managers, and market speculators of every sort and kind can take quick and substantial advantage of any corporation under the sun.

Very Instructive MBA Lesson, Since They Run The Corporations

There are three answers that one can give in virtually any MBA program in America these days and get a gold star from the professor.  Mind you, it makes no difference what the course is, or the question asked in class.  These following answers will always be right!  As follows:

I. Maximize shareholders’ wealth
II. Increase stockholders’ profits
III. Optimize stakeholders’ position

Of course, each of these sacrosanct corporate goals can be accomplished in various ways; one of the quickest is by regular and robust dividend pay out.  Capital appreciation is another which occurs with each increase in the stock price.  These are just two pillars of corporate success which hold up the temple of our post-modern form of predatory capitalism. As long as this temple stands, corrupt, crony, corporate capitalism will continue to lay waste the land … the water … and the seas … all seven of them.

Just why is that?  Because virtually every corporate charter ever written indicates that the corporation answers to the stockholders; they’re the owners.  The needs and demands of the stockholders trump every thing else in the management of the corporate enterprise.  Their enrichment takes precedence over the environment, over the welfare of the employees, over the safety or quality of the product and/or service, over basic social responsibility within the local community.

If the corporate legal team can wiggle its way out of a legitimate lawsuit brought against the company, it will rarely if ever admit to guilt, and will often blame the plaintiff.  Because the costs of litigation can be significantly less than the punitive damages associated with a serious and meritorious legal claim, the legal department will almost always opt for the least costly alternative, even when they know they are flat out guilty of illegal and harmful conduct.  In other words, although a corporation now enjoys various privileges of personhood, it has yet to acquire a conscience.



In view of the current Second Great Depression in which the world now finds itself, it can be said that the planet stands at the brink of a new dawn.  That new dawn is unlike any the world has experienced before, as it is unique and unprecedented within the current epoch of time.

Because the current race of humanity exists as perhaps the largest and most diverse global population in recorded history, there continues to be much which serves to divide and separate us … as individuals and as families, as neighborhoods and villages, cities and states, nations and continents.  Truly, the community of nations is as plagued as ever by wars, revolutions and conflicts.

As the world population exceeds the 7 billion mark by more people each and every day, the differences of the past must be reconciled.  Religious, racial, cultural, language, custom, gender, and sexual differences will always be there, no matter where one resides on the planet.  Because of the growing scarcity of natural resources, however, conflicts in the socio-economic realm are inevitable. Therefore, economic and financial gaps between us will only widen.  Conflict and wars, quarrel and competition are inevitable where it concerns access to clean water, adequate food and shelter, and sufficient clothing.

This omnipresent fact of life can only be addressed in a meaningful way by eliminating the divisive perception of the many differences which are in reality meaningless.  As long as these differences persist in alienating us from each other, the “800 pound gorilla” will always get its way.  Divide and conquer and/or divide and rule will always be easy for the globalists to execute.  If, however, the overwhelming influence of the gorilla of corporate fascism is dealt with in a bold, decisive and purposeful way, things can change for the better.

It’s always the people’s choice.  Will they choose to live in fear.  Or, will they choose to live with faith and courage.  At the end of the day, as well at the end of this epoch, it will always be the collective will of the people that decides the future of humanity.  Whereas the very fate of the planet now hangs in the balance, perhaps there will be a critical mass of souls compelled to demand real change — change that is positive, durable and effectuated in the best interest of all.

Michael Thomas
February 25, 2014

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Author’s Caveat:

There is NO greater threat to human existence than the impunity with which the Government-Corprate Complex currently operates across the planet.  It’s primary instrument of operation is the CORPORATION.  Now that personhood has been conferred upon them, rogue corporations can be used to run roughshod over the Earth like never before.  The status quo in this particular regard was already completely unacceptable; now we will see Gorilla, Inc. on steroids.

Because of the inherent structural defects and profound systemic flaws within the corporate entity, the CORPORATION issue must be addressed at the highest level of global governance.  Such a global transformation of the corporate model will only take place when the people of the world demand it. Otherwise, our civilization will only continue to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Here’s what one writer has observed and predicted.

“Another announcement will be made, in the not too distant future, about the business entity commonly known as the CORPORATION – the main huckster of this ‘brand’ of faux democracy.  Surely, if the devil were to ever choose the perfect form in which to enter in order to carry out his nefarious designs, Inc. is it.  Is there any other entity on earth – person or party, organization or association, government or institution, jurisdiction or bureaucracy, club or group, fraternity or sorority, etc. that can function with such impunity, as it hides behind the shield of LIMITED LIABILITY.  Those two words have given complete cover for the flagrant and wanton destruction of planet Earth.

You name it – oil slicked coastlines, radiation saturated fishing grounds, razed rainforests, beaches strewn with dead dolphins and whales, GMO-laced food supply, fluoride-laced water supply, chemtrail chemicals forever falling from the sky.  Not to mention the complete and utter erosion of human, civil and national rights, wherever INC decides to set up shop.”[1]




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  1. Richard S. says:

    This essay tells the whole story – from start to finish – about how we ended up like this.

    Waiting for Part II ! ! !

  2. Roger says:

    Crony capitalism…
    When they said some banks were too big to fail I understood what they really meant. Some banks were too well connected to fail.

    • Alinsky Hero USA says:

      Do I really think what?

      • Roger says:

        Try reading the comments before replying.

      • Mr. Liberty says:

        Alinsky, after reading this article can we finally agree that Big Gov and Big Biz are one in the same?

        • Alinsky Hero USA says:

          I thought we disagreed about Republicans and Libertarians and Democrats being the same.

          I believe the Government should have strong regulation on business. Presently, much of it is owned by business because of deregulation.

          • Roger says:

            What constitutional powers allow for regulations?

            The constitution only describes how states can't interfere, but can you show where it allows the feds to step in?

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            The constitution allows laws to be passed that regulate business.

          • Roger says:

            There is a trade and commerce clause, but where does it allow for government to stop legal activities that congress hasn't legislated against?

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            What is "legal" is what we are talking about.

          • Roger says:

            Perhaps that is what you want to change the argument to.

            But that wasn't my question. And I notice you haven't been able to show where regulation is constitutional as the constitution lays out in common language.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            You asked a loaded question. Of course government can't stop legal activities. That is an oxymoron. Government creates the laws that state what is legal in business.

            You see, the government's main job is to protect our welfare.

            It's called the General Welfare clause.

            And with it, the government can create laws that regulate business.

            Maybe you don't like it, but be mad at the founding fathers, not me.

          • Roger says:

            Govenrment stops legal activities all the time, with regulations.

            It's fascism. It's what progressive liberals use to punish producers.
            And the general welfare according to progressives is anyone with anything paying 'their fair share' and it ends up in collapse.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            No they regulate legal activities with regulation.

            Drinking beer is a legal activity. The government stopped it, as their job allows. Then they made it legal again. That legal activity is now regulated by governement, but NOT stopped.

          • Roger says:

            And what does regulation do other than to stop activity?
            The very design and purpose is to limit legal actions.

            And what does regulation do for beer drinkers? It impedes it and stops it as often as possible,

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            I am bored with your questions. I made my point.

          • Roger says:

            You were unable to make a point, you expressed your opinions and I explained why you were not factual. The video was hard to get around, wasn't it?

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            Stop harassing me.

          • Roger says:

            Do you mean 'stop disagreeing with me' perhaps?

            I am being very careful to only address the issues, nothing more.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            You said I was unable to make a point. That is an attack.

            Stop harassing me. I am saving your comments.

          • Roger says:

            Great, save the comments. If you want to look at them again to review against your world view it means they have substance even if you don't agree with them. I'm glad that open and vigorous debate is working.

            And your point that regulations don't stop activity? It flies in the face of reality. Regulations on beer, the example you used show that they are designed in every single case to inhibit and stop the consumption of beer, and to narrow the legal window for it's use.

            That's why you didn't really make a point. You expressed your opinion.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            My girlfriend, Sarah Nicole, has asked me to tell you, "stop harassing my boyfriend and making personal attacks about his debating skills."

          • Roger says:

            Vigorous debate in a free society focused soley on issues can frighten some people.

            That's the nice thing about a voluntary forum like this, those uncomfortable with it aren't coerced into participation.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            Your personal attacks make me and my girlfriend Sarah Nicole uncomfortable.

          • Roger says:

            You may have her read the actual thread and realize I have been discussing issues only.

            Perhaps that might be some comfort to her.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            She read the thread and said you are masking personal attacks and feels uncomfortable.

          • Roger says:

            I'm so saddened.

            It bothers me to see personal attacks of any sort, I'll be careful to keep it focused on issues.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            Thank you.

          • Roger says:

            You may want to explain that debate can be offensive, even if, like I have done here, kept the issues as the focus.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            She claims you made a personal attack.

          • Roger says:

            And I can point out that I stuck to issues, one issue is the nature of free debate in an open and voluntary setting.

            We're both entitled to our opinions, and one of us has more factual material to back up their position.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            You said that I couldn't make a point. That is a personal attack.

          • Roger says:

            I said you were unable to make your point, that evidence doesn't support it.

            And I gave evidence to back that up.

            That is debate.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            No, you said "a" point. Nopt "your: point.

          • Roger says:

            I said this:

            "You were unable to make a point, you expressed your opinions and I explained why you were not factual. The video was hard to get around, wasn't it?….

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            I can make a point. So stop saying I can't . That is a personal attack on my character.

          • Roger says:

            So, when will you start?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            See how you can't stop the personal attacks.

          • Roger says:

            I don't see it as a personal attack. You pretened to make points, and I hve in the past explained that you hadn't. It's just pointing out the obvious.

            Are you going to quit replying to my comments or do you just enjoy it too much?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Why have you suddenly stop stalking Wee with personal attacks and now stalk me with personal attacks after I have asked you to stop many times. I am beoming emotionaly disturbed by your harassment.

          • Roger says:

            You know who you can call for the answer to that./

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            I agree that much of it is owned by big business. But regulation or deregulation does not affect big business because it is above law. All regulation does is harm small business.

            Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838:
            "Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws".

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Agreed. Small business gets the shaft everytime to make way for giant corporations like Wal-Mart. I make it a point to shop and mom and pop stores. It is hard to get away from stores like COSTCO though

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            It can affect corporations if the Government wanted it too. That's why I like Obama. He is doing that.

            Regulations help small business. Deregulation hurts small businesses. But again, only when the governemnt is doing their job.

            How many conservatives does it take to screw in a light bulb?

            Zero. The light bulb would change it's self if only these liberals would get out of the way.

          • Roger says:

            And that is fascism.

            Government pretending there is private ownership while controlling all aspects of business.

            Can you give examples of small business doing well with burdensome regulations?

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            No, it's called a Republic.

          • Roger says:

            A Republic is 'rule of law' and our fundamental law is the constitution.

            Obama says he has a pen and a phone. That's fascism.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            Obama works within the laws he is bound by. That is a Republic.

          • Roger says:

            That may be news to the administration.
            That is a republic in it's death throws.

            He doesn't wait for legislation…?

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            He doesn't have to wait for legislation for everything.

            That is how a Republic works.

          • Roger says:

            He is to 'execute' the law. He's the executive branch.
            This is how a dictatorship works, rule by edict.

            It's fascism in it's present form and not a republic as he operates it.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            Executive actions are part of the Constitution.

            That is how a Republic works.

          • Roger says:

            Executive actions are ways he implements or executes the law.

            Legislative actions create it. That's how a republic works.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            No, the two branches are separate. That is how a Republic works.

          • Roger says:

            That's how it's supposed to work. But that's not how Obama is using it.

            Didn't you watch the video of him speaking?

            That is him ignoring the will of congress to avoid some issues and bypassing them as he rules by edict, dictatorship

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            Obama is working within his legal rights.

            If he weren't then conservatives would have a case to impeach him.

            And if they had a case, they wouldn't hesitate to use it.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            The courts can review the Presidents executive decisions. That is how a Republic works.

          • Roger says:

            The courts can if a case is brought by a person of standing. That is how a republic works, and conveniently the courts have found quite often that people don't have standing. Isn't that convenient?

            And if you actually watched the video you would see that Obama won't wait for congress to write laws, he will act without the laws from the legislature. That's ruling by edict and that is dictatorship by definition.

            Don't take my word for it, listen to Obama.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            He doesn't have to wait for congress for everything.

            The Emancipation Proclamation was a executive action that Lincoln made without waiting for congress.

          • Roger says:

            In a republic he does.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            No he doesn't.

          • Roger says:

            Then you define a republic as a dictator ruling by edict as Obama is doing now.

            Correct me if I'm wrong, but he said he doesn't need congress and you call that a republic.

          • Sarah Nicole Hero says:

            He doesn't need congress for everything., The two branches must remain separate in our republic.

          • Roger says:

            He does if he is in a republic. We have congress to write the laws, he's supposed to execute them. If he didn't want the job he could have not bothered running for it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Nope. The constitution gives the President executive decisions that don't need a vote from Congress.

            Your dictator claims are simply not based in reality.

          • Roger says:

            His charge is to execute the law.

            Since obama wants to write law by phone and pen he rules by 'edict' and is dictator.

            It's really simple. I posted a link to him explaining it himself.

            Are you calling Obama a liar?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            And the law says he has powers to make executive actions.

            All part of the constitution.

  3. RogerDodger says:

    Excellent article.

    More appropriately, it should be called the Military-Industrial-Media Complex.

    They can't do their nefarious deeds without a complicit media to spin it for them.

  4. Suzie Q says:

    "I. Maximize shareholders’ wealth
    II. Increase stockholders’ profits
    III. Optimize stakeholders’ position"

    When these are the very raison d'etre, how could we expect anything else from Corporate America?!

    Something has to change … FAST!

  5. Mr.Lincoln says:

    The Worldwide Network of US Military Bases The Global Deployment of US Military Personnel By Jules Dufour Global Research, December 24, 2013

    Defending the World, Bankrupting Ourselves

    After decades of American protection, our friends can form their own alliances to confront any adversary. Steve Chapman December 6, 2012

    Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production, November 13, 2013

    • TheNewsMadd says:

      Funny how we have all these bases to control natural resources. Why do we need an air strip in the middle of the Indian Ocean?

      • Mr.Lincoln says:

        Here is the definitive plan from the Generals own mouth and words
        General Wesley Clark: Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11.

        He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way.

        • Roger says:

          Wesley Clark is a useful idiot at best.

          • Mr.Lincoln says:

            What do think about who you deem an idiot had to say?

          • Roger says:

            I think that most idiots can't be taken seriously and frankly probably didn't understand what was going on around them at times of crisis.

          • Mr.Lincoln says:

            Avoid it once again. I hope you do not do research or anything that requires critical thinking in your profession what ever it may be.

            Is this why you believe you may not be taken serious?

          • Roger says:

            I'm not avoiding anything. I'm not avoiding that Wesley Clark was a political opportunist (who thought he could run for president at some point) and that I give no credibility to.

            I read your quote and considered it carefully. After comparing it to Wesley as a source and his ability to compose things, I wonder if he should be taken seriously.

          • Mr.Lincoln says:

            I can truly see why 'NOBODY' takes you seriously. You know everything and everyone already. Seriously Roger seek professional help!

          • Roger says:

            You do realize that he was a general, part of the complex you discuss so much. So, why do you take him seriously? I realize that as an insider he may or may not have seen things most wouldn't. And I realize you want to agree with his conclusions. But to hang his hat on him? I have problems with that.

          • Mr.Lincoln says:

            Again, he is not stating conclusions, he is articulating exactly what the Joint Chiefs and Generals plans are as well as the NeoCONS plans are! Really ROG. At least view things first!

          • Roger says:

            And from anyone that wasn't part of the problem I might have given him more credibility.

          • patriothere says:

            Thankfully we have someone like Chuck Hagel who will put America first.

          • Roger says:

            Chuck Hagel is the best gift Obama can give the Iranian interest.

            Not the one for American interests, but then that's not what Obama seems to care about.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Reviewing things before you comment is must, unless you want to look like an uneducated fool

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Why would we not take him seriously?!? He is a globalist operative.

            Matthew 7:20 "Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them."

            "Clark serves as the co-chairman of Growth Energy, an ethanol lobbying group,[6][7] and is on the board of directors of BNK Petroleum.[8] Since July 2012, he also acts as an honorary special advisor to Romanian prime minister Victor Ponta on economic and security matters.[9][10]"

            From Wiki

            That right there proves his connection to the globalists. Oh and how he handled Waco proves that too. Clark is SCUM!!! Disgrace to the US and our armed services.

          • Roger says:

            He is part of the problem, clearly.

            So, what he tells us is agenda driven. And needs to be viewed that way.

          • RogerDodger says:

            Mr. Lincoln,

            You ought best be careful.

            He will sue you.

          • RogerDodger says:

            You should be.

            He has the best Law Firms that money can buy on retainer.

            Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe.

            And Saul Goodman, PC.

            Better Call SAUL………!

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            My second fav character behind Jesse in Breaking!

          • RogerDodger says:

            Saul was an absolute riot!
            Best acting I have seen in years.

            From Wiki:
            Upon first meeting Walt (who introduces himself as Mr. Mayhew), Saul explains his real name is not Goodman, and he is actually Irish. He says, "Faith and begorrah! A fellow potato eater! My real name's McGill. The Jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe-hitting member of the tribe, so to speak…"

          • Mr. Liberty says:


            I didn't catch that when I watched but that is totally Saul.

            Are you a Walking Dead fan?

          • RogerDodger says:

            No Walking Dead. I watched five minutes of the very first show. I just cannot get into watching Zombies on TV. It is bad enough dealing with them online……..

            As an aside, the Saul Goodman schtick? It is a play on words:

            S'all Good, man…….

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Haha nice. Kinda like Jack Mehoff! (Chris Farley Black Sheep)

            True that about zombies online. I like Walking Dead but it pales in comparison to Breaking.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Love the Walking Dead

          • Mr.Lincoln says:

            No answer color me, SHOCKED!

          • RogerDodger says:

            It is hard to have an intelligent exchange with the unintelligent.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, but you pretend people can and should treat you like you can handle an exchange anyhow.

          • RogerDodger says:

            I've tried for the better part of two days to ignore you, and not address you directly, yet you persist in poking and prodding me. Are you looking for new defendants for your imaginary lawsuit?

            Discovery should be a riot.
            "Tell us Mr. Russel, the people that you say bothered you, you persisted in posting to them time and again. If you knew you would get shocked by sticking a bobby-pin in a light socket, would you continue doing so, just so you could sue the Electric Company?"


          • Roger says:

            One more time you added nothing to the debate or topic.

            You are predictable.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Useful idiot at least…I'd say he is a globalist, MIC, and GCC operative.

          • Roger says:

            Which is why I wonder if he has the credibility to quote people the way he did.

          • Gentleman,
            Please be so kind as to take up this discussion elsewhere.
            We will only ask you once.
            Thank you –

          • RogerDodger says:

            Mr. Thomas,

            I just saw your post. I am not sure who you were addressing, but I will honor your wishes, and refrain from any further dialogue with Roger.

            On another more positive topic, this article here that you wrote? It is the best article I have ever read here, and I said so at the top of the thread this morning.

            Keep up the good work.

          • Thank you, Roger Dodger.

            As you know, constructive and respectful commentary is alway welcomed
            on this website.

            That's all we ask of you very smart people; let's show the MSM crowd just
            how sharp our critical thinking skills are, yes?!

            Best regards –

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Heck yes Michael!

            It is much easier to learn and grow when we respect each other.

            Keep up the good work!

          • RogerDodger says:

            Critical Thinking?

            Have you ever heard of Blaise Pascal? He was an old guy that lived in the sixteen hundred and somethings. He was a mathematician and physicist who wrote a little book called the "Pensees".

            ….and I quote:

            Chapter V
            Causes and Effects

            Right, might
            It is right to follow the right, it is necessary to follow the mighty. Right without might is helpless, might without right is tyrannical. Right without might is challenged, because there are always evil men about. Might without right is denounced……..

            As a philosopher friend of mine is fond of saying, Being right means, so what?!?

            I write that, to pose a question to you.
            Your article here today was excellent. Your article yesterday on the Ukraine was also excellent. This website is excellent. With all of that being duly noted, what are the answers to our predicament as a Nation?

            Or are we all to sit here wasting bandwith, as the wheels fall off?

            There are a lot of people who are Patriots, sitting in a lot of venues, just waiting for someone to step up and lead them. The problem is, there aren't any Leaders.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Yes leadership is very much needed Dodger!

            IMO we don't need national leaders for the liberty movement as much as we need local leaders. That way the globalists cannot "remove" a single person or a few persons and send us reeling. The more liberty groups, militias, organizations the better. I think it would be dangerous to consolidate.

          • RogerDodger says:

            The Republicans and the Democrats are each separate and independent wings of the same bird of prey.

            WE are whats on the menu, as they pick our carcasses clean.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Agreed. There is no such thing as a two party system.

          • Well sums up the predicament in which we all find ourselves, RogerDodger.

            Many of us throughout the alternative news realm pose the very same questions to each other.

            May I answer as follows:
            Each individual is now called upon to be reclaim their personal sovereignty first. When a critical mass of enlightened and courageous souls is reached, stuff will start to happen.

            Mr. Liberty rightly points out below that the movement must be a genuinely homegrown, organic, grassroots-driven collaboration.
            It will also have to be headless, amorphous, ill-defined and without hierarchy or organization. It's MO will be asymmetric in implementation and will utilize anonymous internet guerrilla warfare to the max.

            That's a start anyway. Am finishing a couple of articles so must sign off for now.

          • TheNewsMadd says:

            Thank for stepping in and stopping him

        • TheNewsMadd says:

          Wow! Our government wants war. They wil lnot be happy until the NWO is established

  6. Mr. Liberty says:

    1st Timothy 6:9-10

    "Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

    Proverbs 15:27

    "The greedy bring ruin to their households, but the one who hates bribes will live."

    I know not all on this site are Christian or believe in the Bible, but these quotes hold a lot of merit today.

  7. An excellent insight into the forces behind the forces at work in the marketplace.

    • RogerDodger says:

      Are you a real Bail Lawyer?

      Are you accepting or trolling for new clients and business?

      How are you in online litigation?

  8. Roger says:

    The 800 lb gorilla just gained another 100 pounds.

    • Mr. Liberty says:

      Saw that on Drudge…not suprising sadly.

      • Roger says:

        That's what angers me, that it's so expected and just handled like another trivia tidbit for the day.

        You and I both understand why it's so horrible. And why it deserves outrage.

        • Mr. Liberty says:

          Sadly, our executive branch has ruled by decree for some time now. It is the norm. I am outraged as well.

          • Roger says:

            When the left has an issue, they have instant outrage and the media echoes it from every outlet.

            But we are more civilized and just stand there shocked. It's no wonder they win the propaganda war every time.

  9. Mr.Lincoln says:

    Spy Agencies Manipulate and Disrupt Web Discussions to Promote Propaganda and Discredit Government Critics. New Snowden Documents Show that Governments Are “Attempting To Control, Infiltrate, Manipulate, and Warp Online Discourse,” February 25, 2014

  10. Mr.Lincoln says:

    Zbigniew Brzezinski Taliban Pakistan Afghanistan pep talk 1979

  11. WarpedSoul says:

    The United States Government, all State Governments, and all local Governments are Corporations according to the Supreme Court. Its called the "Clearfield Doctrine":

    "Governments descend to the level of a mere private corporation, and take on the characteristics of a mere private citizen…where private corporate commercial paper [Federal Reserve Notes] and securities [checks] is concerned. … For purposes of suit, such corporations and individuals are regarded as entities entirely separate from government." Clearfield Trust Co. v. United States, 318 U.S. 363-371 (1942)

    For instance in the 2006 New York State Common Retirement Fund the investments in stocks, bonds, mortgage holdings, real estate investments, alternative and short-term investments exceeded $140 billion dollars. How much money in how many other funds or investments are they sitting on. According to the Clearfield Doctrine the State of New York is a Corporation. This is true for all States and local Governments simply by using Federal Reserve Notes. Think, are the bailouts and laws passed to help protect the citizens or help protect the largest investors?

    The University of Wisconsin claimed that the Government was crippling the U of W with tax cuts and they needed $30 million dollars so the Governor naturally gave them $180 million. Then it came to light that the U of W was sitting on over $1 billion dollars. Then why do they need more taxpayer money?

    Believe it or not its all by consent of every individual whether you know it or not. All by Invisible Contracts(George Mercier).

    According to Walter Burien and his web site there is enough collective wealth in these Comprehensive Annual Finance Reports(CAFR) for every American to never have to pay any taxes again, ever. Well worth it to learn what they are and how it may impact you in your city, county, and state.

    "The most Dangerous thing you can do is educate people. Because when people become educated you cannot control them, you cannot frighten them. People who are educated know their own power, and don't surrender it to others." Jordan Maxwell

  12. Ruth M. says:

    Excellent breakdown, Michael!

    If everyone understood how this game was set up,
    the globalists would lose their power the same day.

    This essay needs to be facebooked 24/7 for the next year!

  13. Power to the People says:

    Hey Storyleaks,

    This post is as good as it gets.
    Lots of great connections made that
    people rarely make for themselves.
    The hidden GCC hates sunshine.
    So why not do a series on this whole
    covert plan to further enslave and
    weaken the people.
    Where there is awareness of these
    shenanigans, their is power to thwart

    Keep up the great work!

  14. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Good news! Obama saves us!!

  15. Mr.Lincoln says:

    FEBRUARY 27, 2014 FCC Plan To Monitor Newsrooms Hatched By Obama Supporters, 4 of The 5 Study Authors Donated To His Campaign… Which probably isn’t surprising to anyone.

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