Phil Robertson’s Suspension: Chilling Effect on Freedom of Speech

Michael Thomas
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December 19th, 2013
Updated 12/24/2013 at 4:11 pm

The Mainstream Media is now a major advocate for not-so-free speech … …
except when they want to publish or post their ‘truth’ on their front pages.

‘Duck Dynasty’ Phil Robertson suspended ‘indefinitely’ for gay quip

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No one has ever seen anything like it in American Mainstream Media (MSM)! A famous TV star voices his honest opinion, and he is indefinitely suspended.  Hollywood used to be a liberal and quite tolerant place, yes?  Not now, especially if you don’t share management’s sentiments on specific issues … like the LGBT agenda.

The blatant hypocrisy and double standard vividly demonstrated by the MSM is even more dramatic.  Their knee-jerk reactions are so over the top that one wonders if they are all drinking Kool-Aid laced with every psychotropic and psychoactive drug available. Honestly, these people have really gone crazy. And yet they have been put in charge of the insane asylum of Mainstream Media.

One thing is now very clear:  The MSM has been empowered by the establishment to launch any witch hunt necessary to shut down any and all resistance to their shameless advancement of the LGBT agenda.  This particular MSM mandate is crystal clear.  And Phil Robertson has been made the perfect high profile example of what will no longer be tolerated — be it genuine free speech or not.

DISCLAMER:  We are taking no position whatsoever on any of the relevant LGBT issues involved in this explosive and provocative saga.  We only mean to expose that which is trying to subvert our right to free speech.  Protection of free speech is absolutely paramount in the ensuing public debate regarding the LGBT agenda.

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The Thought Police Have Finally Arrived: LGBT Agenda = Political Correctness 

2014 will become know as the actual Orwellian year — 1984.  The audacity of Hollywood  to turn on its own so quickly and aggressively over the expression of personal opinion is as Kafkaesque as it gets.  We’re talking about the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.  Only this kettle ain’t black.

What is particularly concerning about this turn of events is that it reflects the inordinate power of those who promote the LGBT agenda from the top down, and the bottom up.  In short, the LGBT lobby has become the single most powerful political force in the world today.  It has evolved into such a well-oiled and efficient machine that it can take down the most well-connected and wealthy political leaders in a heartbeat.

The MSM is so committed to the LGBT agenda that if you cross them publicly in this regard, you will be made into mincemeat by the end of the same day.  Such is the terrible wrath that Phil Robertson is now experiencing.  One day he is the biggest star of the most popular TV show on the planet; the next day he is indefinitely suspended from his featured role in the TV hit Duck Dynasty.

Wow, talk about reversal of fortune.  The LGBT lynch mob will have you lynched before you even leave the radio station interview.  They have formed a network of “snitches and spies” (who surf the internet for perceived transgressions) that would make Joseph Stalin envious … for real!

Back to the political lobby part.  The LGBT has become way too big for a cause that is dubious at best, morally corrupt at its worst.  This shadowy power group, whoever they are, has decided what is best for humankind, and they are determined to foist their agenda on the entire planet.  They are equally intent on imposing their sexual preferences and behavior on the nation regardless of its acceptability.  Their LGBT vision is being inserted into every sphere of life, not only in the USA but throughout the entire world.

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LGBT Weapons of Choice and MO

Word to the wise that, whenever you express your opinion regarding any part of the LGBT agenda, be prepared to be called a homophobe, a hater, a bigot, an anti-homosexual, among many other nasty things.  Mind you, this reaction will occur regardless of what your true feelings are about the LGBT issues.  This unseemly crowd swarms around perceived antagonists like a pack of jackals and will tear them apart with baseless ad hominem attacks.

The LGBT advocacy network will also exploit any weakness that a target might present.  No matter who the individual is, their station in life or perceived power in the community, they will be taken down in a New York minute if they cross a certain line.  The LBGT tactics and techniques are as old as the CIAs or KGBs.  Smear, trash, besmirch the victim’s reputation any way they can so as to neutralize their impact on society.  If they happen to enjoy any perch of corporate or political power, knock them off as quickly as possible.

When a society allows one group, especially a very fuzzy thinking advocacy group, to have the upper the hand in every single debate, something is very wrong.  When the same group can libel and slander their adversaries at will, the problem just got bigger.  Even the US Federal Government and national legal community have gotten into the fight … clearly on the wrong side.  The ensuing political dynamics have permitted flagrant defamation of character and character assassination on those who have run afoul with the LGBT agenda.

Phil Robertson knows the deal real well by now.  They essentially got him fired for speaking very candidly — and honestly — in an interview.  To take down the most popular guy on TV in the blink of an eye speaks to the pervasiveness of LGBT reps within Hollywood and the MSM.  They functioned as judge and jury, prosecutor and executioner within a day’s time.

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Where can this possibly go but in the wrong direction … before it goes in the right direction!

What does one do with a Mainstream Media that has lost its ability to reason. When the human faculty of reason has fled from so many, and to this degree, where are we going? Common sense has now become so rare that the society will surely suffer a breakdown … one of epic proportions.

When the MSM and Hollywood can pour so much offensive garbage into our TV sets, on the big screens at every theatre near you, and on every computer screen, and then bristle when someone speaks some “gospel truth”, something is VERY upside down.  This same group of media magnates, movie producers, directors and actors, news anchors, talking heads, etc. are the same folks who scream and yell “HOMOPHOBE” when there’s nary a homophobe in the room … or on the set.

This year is ready for a real shoutin’ match.  Phil Robertson is just the guy to do the shoutin’ because of his authentic posture toward this highly charged and demanding social issue.  In other words, if he cannot rally the troops of sanity and moral uprightness, no one can.  Truly, Phil may be just the perfect foil to the liberal LGBT agenda that is being foisted on US.  However, he will need LOTS of prayer to safely weather the many storms which will undoubtedly be sent his way.  As a natural born preacher, we trust this will be the greatest role of his lifetime.

Michael Thomas
State of the Nation
December 20, 2013

Author’s Note:
If we wrote what we really felt, we would probably be kicked off the internet for the rest of this incarnation.  Suffice to say that the LGBT agenda is totally out of control.  The purveyors of every aspect of this highly skewed and morally bankrupt agenda must be dealt with in the upcoming public discourse.  They cannot be allowed to run their trips on the rest of society.  Otherwise, what will become of the children. What will they be taught, and what will they learn?

Here’s what is going on at the college level!

College Allows Transgender Man to Expose Himself to Young Girls

“The Not-So-Natural”: 6-Foot- 6 Transgender-Bender Basketball Player Described as Team’s “Glue”

Brown University’s student health plan will cover 14 different sex change procedures that insurance companies have labeled ‘cosmetic’

Yale Students Receive Bestiality, Incest Sensitivity Training During ‘Sex Weekend’

College Offers Course Devoted Entirely To Pornography

The hardcore LGBT stormtroopers are a relatively small group, but many among them occupy positions of significant mundane power. Barack Obama is just one of the torchbearers of this movement.  His aggressive LGBT advocacy both at home and abroad, just like his extreme stance on abortion, has greatly corrupted the nation.  His unabashed campaigning for gay marriage around the world has made him enemies both big and small.  Even the black pastors of America have risen up against the Obama Administration’s misguided policies regarding gay marriage.

Similarly, many corporate CEOs and Chairmen have climbed on board this LGBT bandwagon as we saw with the ATT Chairman and CEO who directed the gay takeover of the Boy Scouts.  Home Depot has gone so far as to sponsors kids’ booths at gay pride parades. “Home Depot is basically encouraging the attendance of children at events which openly expose them to transvestites, cross-dressers, and homosexual activities.”

How much further will we let the LGBT agenda go?  What will our children and grandchildren say 20 years hence, when it is taught in schools that homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality?  Or that gay/lesbian behavior are signs of spiritual advancement, as one website put it.

Phil Robertson simply drew our attention to certain homosexual practices which go against natural law.  By doing so he showed that we now enjoy the same state of affairs as a place called Sodom and Gomorrah of biblical notoriety.  It was there that a similar form of profound moral depravity took hold of the people.  Sodomy is now well known to be an extremely unhealthy and unnatural sexual practice because of that bible story.   And we all know how that ended!

Lastly, would you want to be raised as a child by two gay parents?  Would you want to be taught that homosexuality is the superior sexual orientation?  That our nation even allows for these things to be ‘legitimized‘ is a stain on the entire body politic.  To debauch and corrupt the children is always considered the very worst of transgressions against both God and neighbor.

References:

Hundreds Of Thousands Support Boycotting A&E Following ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star’s Suspension

The ‘Duck Dynasty’ Fiasco Says More About Our Bigotry Than Phil’s

‘Boycott A&E’ Facebook Support Page for Phil Robertson Gets 750K+ Likes

Sarah Palin: ‘Intolerants’ Behind Phil Robertson’s Suspension Attacking ‘All of Us’

Jindal: ‘Messed Up Situation When Miley Cyrus Gets a Laugh, and Phil Robertson Gets Suspended’

CRUZ: ‘Represents the America Usually Ignored or Mocked by Liberal Elites’…

Actual Politicians Respond to ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star’s Comments About Genitals

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Michael Thomas is a contributing writer to Storyleak and Editor of the State of the Nation website, where he offers analysis on geopolitical events.

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  1. Robert M. says:

    WOW ! ! ! You really nailed it, Michael.

    The LGBT agenda must be exposed for what it really is.
    Thanks for having the courage to do your part.

  2. The LGBT folks and their misguided agenda are being used — perhaps unwittingly — to divide American society like no other wedge issue in the history of the Republic.

    What could be more divisive than the relentless scandalizing of our children, on a daily basis. Especially when so much moral depravity is presented as normal and perfectly acceptable?

    This issue has nothing to do with tolerance or acceptance of homosexual people or their behavior.
    It has everything to do with the manner in which the LGBT political force is FOISTING their agenda on everyone, everywhere, all the time.

    Their determined purpose is like a juggernaut rolling over anything that gets in its way.
    It must be stopped — post haste — before it irreparably destroys the very fabric of society.

  3. James Halloran says:

    I agree – Phil R. just may be the guy to blow this issue wide open.

    There is so much fear among the general public around confronting this matter.
    So many are afraid of expressing their deeply held convictions.

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

  4. hank says:

    You got that right, the LGBT machine has morphed into a full-blown "JUGGERNAUT"!

    Never seen anything like it.

    • Latimer the Cat says:

      It didn't just come out-of-the-blue. Actually in history the Talmudic Judaic mind-set and consequential anti-familly behavior (which is what this has always been) was unleashed upon pre-NASDP Berlin leading-up to the formation of the NASDP and subsequant re-gainning of Europiean decenancy upon their fleeying for the most part to the United States.

      Ref. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/lasha

  5. Mr. Liberty says:

    Double standards make me sick. On one hand we have a Lesbian firing 3 straight men who are married from a school (gets zero media attention) and on the other hand we have Phil Roberts expressing his opinion and not advocating any wrong doing and gets fired (receiving more media attention than anything).

    The LGBT are a bunch of bigots, sensationalists, manipulators, and liars. Ignore them. They are invalid and should have no say in society anymore for they are hypocrites.

    I am a Christian, and I have very similar beliefs as Phil in regards to homosexuality, but I am sick of the demonization that falls on us Christians. We have to turn the other cheek however and continue to love and forgive these people. Although it is extremely hard to do.

    • Jon says:

      Then rejoice, for the time of the Lord will be near. When they persecute you, curse you, and delivered you up to be killed. Rejoice. We should battle their hatred with love, and their deception with truth. If God can raise people from the dead. I’m sure He can turn a homosexual to forsake his/her sin. But if this be the judgement of God upon the nation, then let it be, and pray. In prayer always, pray for them, and never forget what the Lord says: do good to them that hate you, bless them that curse you, pray for them that persecute you. For what reward do you have if you do good to them that also do good to you?. Let us not be like them in their slander, hate, but let us admonish them in truth and love. If they want hell then it will be over your body with arms around their knees. Romans 1:28-32 ’28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.”

    • Alinsky Hero USA says:

      What about when he said there were no black people unhappy during segregation?

      Does the black community have a right to be upset by that statement without you calling them a bunch of bigots, sensationalists, manipulators, and liars. Ignore them. They are invalid and should have no say in society anymore for they are hypocrites?

      Does A&E have to keep a racist on the air?

      • Roger says:

        Why do you think he's racist for having opinions on what he saw and lived?

        Oh, and he's also accurate. http://www.texastribune.org/2012/06/19/black-lead

        • Alinsky Hero USA says:

          Because those are racist opinions.

          Your article proves me correct. Wby would you link an article that says that racism is strong?

          • Roger says:

            He never said one race was better or worse.

            He merely agreed with blacks of today that our race relations have deteriorated.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Not saying one race was better or worse does not mean he is not racist.

            A + B =the sum of A +B

          • Roger says:

            Not saying anything about a race being better or worse is a lack of anything racist.

            Just because you want to call him racist doesn't mean he's a racist.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Not saying anything about a race being better or worse is a lack of anything racist DOES NOT = he is not racist.

            A + B DOES NOT =C

          • Roger says:

            You can't show he thinks less of anyone due to skin color.

            All you can show is he actually worked in his younger years. And that's not news.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            He showed it.

            The Germans in 1930's and 40's claim they also didn't see any unhappy Jews.

            Holocaust deniers claim they are not anti-semetic.

            Racist tactics never change.

            Simple.

          • Roger says:

            No, he didn't. You haven't showed he has and you can't show he has.

            Alinsky, all those rules for radicals don't give you a bit of credibility.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Yes. He did.

            He showed it himself.

            Alinsky rules make it clear and expose your lies.

          • Roger says:

            No, and I've given sources that show current black leadership agree with him on the decline in race relations.

            Can't you do better than this? Even for you the thread is lame.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Yes, and you haven't showed any sources that show current black leadership agree with him.

            Obama is the head of black leadership, and white leadership.

            This thread is the greatest.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, I did.Try counting up about 12 comments.

            Alinsky, (and I realize it's an insult to call anyone that) you just can't debate, can you?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            No. your comment and link did not show that.

            I debate. you don't debate. You report my comment. But I found a way to make sure all my comments say on the thread.

            Simple.

          • Roger says:

            Yes, it did. Denying the truch only works when you're righting a book about how to destroy.

            Not when you face reality or try to build. That's where alinsky was a failure. He didn't know how to transform anything into a utopia. Changing a society is easy enough, but getting the results you want is another thing.

            He never managed that any more than marx did.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            No you didn't.

            righting a book? Hahahahhaah!!

            Alinsky knew how to transform communities into utopia. That is why he is a hero.

            Marx and Alinsky are both heroes.

            I face reality and build.

          • Roger says:

            Go ahead and give a list of utopias.

            I can give you a list of the ones that tried and millions died. That's not my definition of utopia.

            Why don't you go farm in China and see how fun it is to live under the boot of communism.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            I gave a list of utopias, but you reported it out of shame.

            You can't give a list of utopias that tried.

            I have been to a farm in china and I saw everyone having fun.

          • Roger says:

            Still can't can you.
            The USSR, East Germany, the entire eastern block for that matter. China and Cuba had to adopt free market exceptions to keep from collapsing and even the early colonists tried it and realized it failed.

            And you still keep blowing smoke.

  6. Guy says:

    There is no chilling effect. … this story has gone mainstream. The fact that the network has suspended him is merely a business decision – I expect the program, with full cast intact, to move to a network that is more sympathetic to Phil’s views. Just as I won’t work be surprised if the private enterprise operating this site chooses to pull this comment.

  7. Jon says:

    Then rejoice, for the time of the Lord will be near. When they persecute you, curse you, and delivered you up to be killed. Rejoice. We should battle their hatred with love, and their deception with truth. If God can raise people from the dead. I’m sure He can turn a homosexual to forsake his/her sin. But if this be the judgement of God upon the nation, then let it be, and pray. In prayer always, pray for them, and never forget what the Lord says: do good to them that hate you, bless them that curse you, pray for them that persecute you. For what reward do you have if you do good to them that also do good to you?. Let us not be like them in their slander, hate, but let us admonish them in truth and love. If they want hell then it will be over your body with arms around their knees. Romans 1:28-32 ’28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.”

  8. Roger says:

    So much tolerance. That is the talking point of the gay community, isn't it?

    They have none and this shows it for all the world to see.

    • Alinsky Hero USA says:

      The gay virgin community is worse.

      • Roger says:

        I guess I'll have to take your word for it.
        But can't you try to stay on topic on the militant gay agenda and how it may have called for tolerance until it had enough control of the media and now demands much much more?

        • Alinsky Hero USA says:

          What about the black people that hate his racist comments? Are they also militant?

          • Roger says:

            We think they deserve civil rights and a good job too.

            Why don't you examine your definition of militant and then try explaining why you aren't a militant marxist?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Seems as if black people are upset at this guy's racist comments, and that conservatives have made this racist a hero.

            You want to admit that, or do you want to report this comment and pretend conservatives aren't racists un-american terrorists?

          • Roger says:

            Being gay isn't a particular race. At least not the way most people define 'race'.

            You want to go ahead and admit you're a militant marxist?
            Or are you going to keep pretending that alinsky rules make any sense here at this forum.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You better re-read the thread. I asked you about the RACIST comments he said against BLACK PEOPLE in the article.

            It upset black people, and conservatives still make this guy their hero.

            That is un-American.

          • Roger says:

            You better reread the thread. You tried to derail it with racist comments when race has nothing to do with the story. Do alinsky rules keep you from actually debating any actual topic?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Why isn't his racist comments part of the story?

          • Roger says:

            Why isn't it that you can admit he isn't a racist?
            Why do you pretend any part of this was about race somehow?

            Are all of the alinsky followers as militant about marxism as you are?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            In the article he made racist comments. Why are conservatives ignoring his racist attacks?

            The blacks and gays have won again.

            You racist conservative homobashers are finished.

            Simple.
            http://perezhilton.com/2013-12-20-duck-dynasty-fa

          • Roger says:

            You quote hilton? He's not exactly a reasonable person.
            Can you quote a racist component to what Phil said or not? What he said was his own opinion and Hilton says meaner things almost daily. Why don't we all demand that he be put on permanent hiatus as a result since he isn't 'tolerant'?

            And you're still a militant marxist and derail the thread into a smoke screen to avoid real debate on the story.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            A + B = the sum of A + B

          • Roger says:

            He never said any race was better or worse.

            Just spoke to the time.

            So, you may not agree with him, but you can't show he was racist and put down any skin color.

            You really aren't up to this are you?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            A + B DOES NOT = C

          • Roger says:

            You haven't shown a or b. And certainly haven't shown how that equals racism.

            History is what it is.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You don't seem to even know what a and b are.

          • Roger says:

            And you ignore there was no racism.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You are racist if you support a duck killer who hates black people.

          • Roger says:

            Such strong words for such a clearly false premise. You haven't shown he hates anyone. He said in his statement it's not his place to judge.

            Why do you hate this man so much?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            He showed it himself. He showed he hates black people and homos.

            His comments were extremely judgemental.

            I hate him and all racists.

          • Roger says:

            You're the bigot.
            You ignored the link where what he said was backed up by black leadership today.

            He said times didn't have the bad race relations and that he worked alongside people of other skin colors.

            Why do you keep lying and saying that makes him a racist?

            And his comments included his saying it's not his place to judge. But you're being worse than him and judging.

            Pot meet kettle.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            He doesn't have any black people on his stupid show.

            I told you, Obama is the white and black leadership today.

            I am not lying. He is a racist.

            Judging is great. And I judge him a racist.

          • Roger says:

            He also doesn't make anyone go on his show based on skin color.

            That's something a racist would do.

            And Obama can't lead his own dog.

            And you also judge marxism to be great, so your judgement is flawed.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            He can't make anyone do anything. He is a duck killing redneck that the A&E channel is throwing back in the trash where he belongs.

            Obama has led our country out of the s h it pile you conservative made it.

            Marxism is great according to science.

          • Roger says:

            Marxism fails every single time.

            And Obama has dragged the country into a pile of poo and then blamed Bush.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Marxism is proven to be right by math and science.

            It always works when applied.

            Obama will have a statue next to Lincoln.

          • Roger says:

            Lenin liked a lot of statues too.

            But that was just another example of failed marxism. There are so many.

            I guess your math and science doesn't take into account real world experiences.

    • Thankfully, you have tolerance to spare. Amiright?

  9. Matt says:

    Good article. There is a reason for all of this.

    What really gets me is I hear of these businesses, say a cake maker, that decides not sell a cake to a same sex couple. ARE YOU KIDDING ME! This business owner starts this business with his/her own time and resources, they have a right to do business as they see fit.

    To have some judge tell them who they must sell their product to is beyond my comprehension as a “free” individual persuing my own self interest and happiness.

    Crazy.

    • Mr. Liberty says:

      I agree Matt. Let me play devils advocate however.

      What if there was a black night club owner who only allowed blacks into his/her club? Or a white restaurant owner who only serves whites. Would you apply the same logic?

      • Roger says:

        There is more to it than that. Colorado state law does not allow same sex marriage.

        The couple was demanding a cake specifically for an illegal union that didn't happen in that state.

        If a black man walked into a black only restaurant and demanded marijuana laced brownies and said it was discrimination if it wasn't served, would you want a judge to force them into it since other states allowed it?

        • Mr. Liberty says:

          Nope no judge needed. I want a free market, therefore I feel that any business can choose to make products that cater to a specific sex, race or religion. Morally I am not in favor of white or black or straight only services/products but if we truly have a free market than the entrepreneur who is putting up the risk for their business has all the say as to who is serviced and who isn’t serviced. Personally it doesn’t seem like a sound business practice to bar anyone from ones products.

  10. We all have the right to freedom of speech….PERIOD. I hope he doesn't back down like everyone else has and we all can quit worrying about getting in trouble for voicing an opinion. This is the USA, believe it or not.

  11. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    I like to see the homosexuals win.

  12. model500 says:

    Freedom of Speech: The legal means to say almost anything you want. Meaning that as private citizens, we’re allowed to say nearly anything (with a few exceptions of course) that we want without fear of legal prosecution for it.

    Unless I’ve missed something, Mr. Robertson faces no legal ramifications for what he said. That’s what freedom of speech means. Freedom of speech does not mean we can say anything we want without ramifications for what we say from our peers or employers.

    So just as people boycotted and radio stations dropped The Dixie Chicks for their anit-bush comments they and Robertson have not had any of their rights violated. They are still free citizens allowed to say anything they wish. The Right-wing has every right to boycott A&E but by making this a free speech issue they are showing themselves to be unthinking dolts.

    • Roger says:

      When people boycotted the dixie chicks it was the market speaking. When Phil got fired it was the elite catering to the minority with the biggest mouth.

      • Alinsky Hero USA says:

        When Obama won twice, it was the people boycotting Free Market murder and tyranny.

        • Roger says:

          Was it? McCain and Romney both were RINO's at best and not a classic example of the free market.

          And why can't you actually debate the story?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            McCain and Romney are both real Republicans.

            Tea Party wingnuts are RINOs.

          • Roger says:

            Wow, that sure was a quick shift off the topic.

            The support the base gave both was tepid at best, enough to keep them from winning.

            And you haven't showed that market support had anything to do with Obama actually winning, just a lack of market support for the other guy.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            The support from the base was from real Republicans.

            I didn't say the market, I said the people boycotting the free market murder and tyranny.

            Simple.

          • Roger says:

            The support from conservatives didn't show up. http://dancingfromgenesis.wordpress.com/2008/11/1

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Because those conservatives that didn't show up are RINOs

          • Roger says:

            I notice I use all sorts of links and sources.
            And you use opinions and do so to derail the topic on the thread.

            Why are you here? Are you going to try taking this site down like you claim you did to Brietbarts?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Your link proved that Tea Party conservatives are RINOs.

          • Roger says:

            Your definitions are flawed.

            But that's not any real news. And how does that have anything to do with the story topic? You really are determined to work agains the site aren't you?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Your definitions cost you the last two Presidential elections.

            Ha ha!!

            Simple.

          • Roger says:

            No, this may be hard for a marxist.
            We make sure our votes are earned, we don't bow to the alter of 'party'.

            And it's not a laughing matter for patriots. Too bad our candidates didn't reflect our values and cherish constitutional values the way the party planks do.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You don't follow the party because you are RINOs. As a Marxist, I see that clearly.

            Your vales aren't Republican. They are Tea Party.

          • Roger says:

            Tea party is the republican base that was neglected for far too long by the party, and the Reagan democrats that are repulsed by the marxists of today in their party.

            You have flawed definitions. But then you're not here for serious debate anyhow, so that isn't something you care about.

            You trolls sure are focused on this site, does it frighten you all that badly?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Tea Party base was ignored because they are RINOs.

            Reagan Democrats are DINOs.

            Your definitions are why you always lose the elections.

            I am here for serious debate.

            This site does not frighten me.

          • Roger says:

            They were ignored by the RINO's. Can't you come up with better spam for the site than this?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            They were RINOs that were ignored by real Republicans.

            I am making great retort.

          • Roger says:

            You are ignoring the truth, as usual.

            Is this where you brag about destroying the site?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You are a liar. You would never have known about this site if it wasn't for me. You stalked me here. Which is why I only comment on a few sites at a time. Because you're a stalker. I just keep going down the ID site list and you follow me to everyone.

          • Roger says:

            Poor little 'wee' thing.
            One more comment designed to stop debate and derail the discussion. Why the temper tantrum, you have called in your pajama boy buddies to help you out today. Can't you even pretend you're here to debate?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Imagine that roger made One more comment designed to stop debate and derail the discussion

          • Roger says:

            Poor little 'wee' thing. And you didn't report it to have it pulled like all the others.

            Wee, why are you and alinsky and patriot coming here to attack the site with garbage? Is the 'pro-western' thinking that scary to you?

      • patriothere says:

        Phil didn't get fired. He's been suspended.

        • Roger says:

          As someone with an Iranian centric thinking skill set, let me explain this to you.

          "Fired" is a slang term not a technical one. You 'fire' then when they are no longer employed, it has different meanings in different circumstances. Usually it's a surprise and it's always final.

          In this case he was put on permanent hiatus. That would be a final boot out the door. "fired' fits.

    • Mr. Liberty says:

      I disagree with your logic model500.

      Phil Robertson is an avid Christian, it has been proven by his actions and his words. Christianity is a religion and is therefore a protected class. He cannot be fired/suspended for his beliefs and/or by the words that he speaks relating to his religion.

      It has also came to light today or yesterday that A&E knowingly and willingly signed off on the GQ interview. If I was Robertson I would sue for workplace discrimination and win.

      • bigbadwood says:

        Phil Robertson is NOT an avid Christian ! He is a hate filled phony hiding behind the word of God. Phil is not being sued for what he has said he has Freedom of Speech.
        Freedom of speech doesn't guarantee you can say anything you want and not face some consequences like losing one's job or facing public scorn. It means you can say what you like – no matter how idiotic and homophobic it is – and not be arrested for it. See link to see this christian at work for GOD! Watch who you hitch your wagon to! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detai

    • bigbadwood says:

      Your are so correct !

  13. model500 says:

    Freedom of Speech: The legal means to say almost anything you want. Meaning that as private citizens, we’re allowed to say nearly anything (with a few exceptions of course) that we want without fear of legal prosecution for it.

    Unless I’ve missed something, Mr. Robertson faces no legal ramifications for what he said. That’s what freedom of speech means. Freedom of speech does not mean we can say anything we want without ramifications for what we say from our peers or employers.

    So just as people boycotted and radio stations dropped The Dixie Chicks for their anit-bush comments they and Robertson have not had any of their rights violated. They are still free citizens allowed to say anything they wish. The Right-wing has every right to boycott A&E but by making this a free speech issue they are showing themselves to be unthinking dolts.

  14. model500 says:

    Freedom of Speech: The legal means to say almost anything you want. Meaning that as private citizens, we’re allowed to say nearly anything (with a few exceptions of course) that we want without fear of legal prosecution for it.

    Unless I’ve missed something, Mr. Robertson faces no legal ramifications for what he said. That’s what freedom of speech means. Freedom of speech does not mean we can say anything we want without ramifications for what we say from our peers or employers.

    So just as people boycotted and radio stations dropped The Dixie Chicks for their anit-bush comments they and Robertson have not had any of their rights violated. They are still free citizens allowed to say anything they wish. The Right-wing has every right to boycott A&E but by making this a free speech issue they are showing themselves to be unthinking dolts.

    Also, my comments are being deleted and not by me so I am left to assume that this page is run by intellectual cowards. Good to know this comments section is useless and a den of delusion and self congratulation for the the sites owners and operators.

  15. Mr.Lincoln says:

    Obama's Utopia

    This video is my attempt to wake up America on the economic peril this country is facing and to ask individuals to take personal responsibility in preparing for the coming storm of civil unrest, government control over the daily lives of the dependent masses, and a message to those of us that are aware to prepare ourselves physically, economically, and spiritually as we will be the ones to lead this country back to its founding principals.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flW5XNRgb4o

  16. If we wrote what we really felt, we would probably be kicked off the internet for the rest of this incarnation. Suffice to say that the LGBT agenda is totally out of control.

  17. bubba says:

    What Jesus says about homosexuality is.. .. he doesn't mention it.

  18. wee roger says:

    Absolutely. We should always encourage freedom of speech, even if the speaker is a nitwit.

  19. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    His racist quotes are his own.

    Your racist support of him is good.

    Conservatives lose because of their racism every for years.

    simple.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  20. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    His racist quotes are his own.

    Your racist support of him is good.

    Conservatives lose because of their racism every for years.

    simple.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  21. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Roger has never mentioned a girlfriend with over 120,000 comments.

    Then he reports my comments regarding his homo stalking.

    Then he defends a racist from reality show, while thinking of Paris Hilton's tight ass.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  22. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Roger has never mentioned a girlfriend with over 120,000 comments.

    Then he reports my comments regarding his homo stalking.

    Then he defends a racist from reality show, while thinking of Paris Hilton's tight ass.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  23. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    When Obama won twice, it was the people boycotting Free Market murder and tyranny.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  24. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    You only watch gay movies and T.V. shows.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  25. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    You only watch gay movies and T.V. shows.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  26. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    McCain and Romney are both real Republicans.

    Tea Party wingnuts are RINOs.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  27. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Because those are racist opinions.

    Your article proves me correct. Wby would you link an article that says that racism is strong?

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  28. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    A + B = the sum of A + B

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  29. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    The support from the base was from real Republicans.

    I didn't say the market, I said the people boycotting the free market murder and tyranny.

    Simple.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  30. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Not saying one race was better or worse does not mean he is not racist.

    A + B =the sum of A +B

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  31. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Because those conservatives that didn't show up are RINOs

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  32. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    You don't seem to even know what a and b are.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  33. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Your link proved that Tea Party conservatives are RINOs.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  34. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Your definitions cost you the last two Presidential elections.

    Ha ha!!

    Simple.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  35. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    He showed it.

    The Germans in 1930's and 40's claim they also didn't see any unhappy Jews.

    Holocaust deniers claim they are not anti-semetic.

    Racist tactics never change.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  36. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    You don't follow the party because you are RINOs. As a Marxist, I see that clearly.

    Your vales aren't Republican. They are Tea Party.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  37. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Yes. He did.

    He showed it himself.

    Alinsky rules make it clear and expose your lies.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  38. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Yes, and you haven't showed any sources that show current black leadership agree with him.

    Obama is the head of black leadership, and white leadership.

    This thread is the greatest.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  39. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Tea Party base was ignored because they are RINOs.

    Reagan Democrats are DINOs.

    Your definitions are why you always lose the elections.

    I am here for serious debate.

    This site does not frighten

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  40. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    No. your comment and link did not show that.

    I debate. you don't debate. You report my comment. But I found a way to make sure all my comments say on the thread.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  41. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    They were RINOs that were ignored by real Republicans.

    I am making great retort

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  42. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    No you didn't.

    righting a book? Hahahahhaah!!

    Alinsky knew how to transform communities into utopia. That is why he is a hero.

    Marx and Alinsky are both heroes.

    I face reality and build.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  43. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    I gave a list of utopias, but you reported it out of shame.

    You can't give a list of utopias that tried.

    I have been to a farm in china and I saw everyone having fun.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  44. Roger says:

    He was put on permanent hiatus.

    And that's effectively being fired.

  45. Roger says:

    According to whom?
    You may not know more than A & E.

  46. Roger says:

    And how temporary was his 'permanent hiatus'?

  47. Roger says:

    suspension does not equal permanent hiatus.

  48. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Real men have girlfriend, and you are still a virgin.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  49. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Real men have girlfriend, and you are still a virgin.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  50. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    He can't make anyone do anything. He is a duck killing redneck that the A&E channel is throwing back in the trash where he belongs.

    Obama has led our country out of the s h it pile you conservative made it.

    Marxism is great according to science

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  51. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    He can't make anyone do anything. He is a duck killing redneck that the A&E channel is throwing back in the trash where he belongs.

    Obama has led our country out of the s h it pile you conservative made it.

    Marxism is great according to science

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  52. patriothere says:

    no he was suspended.

  53. Roger says:

    And what is your source or link? This story used the word suspended.
    A & E used the term 'permanent hiatus'.
    http://ezkool.com/2013/12/duck-dynasty-star-place

    Either way, he was fired in effect.

  54. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Marxism is proven to be right by math and science.

    It always works when applied.

    Obama will have a statue next to Lincoln.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  55. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Marxism is proven to be right by math and science.

    It always works when applied.

    Obama will have a statue next to Lincoln.

    Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/phil-robertsons-suspensi

  56. Roger says:

    You aren't going to brag about trying to destroy this site?

    You sure do give the strangest replies. If you have nothing to say, why bother saying it?

  57. Yeah, you tell him Roger. He doesn't belong here.

  58. Roger says:

    Your flawed definitions are coming to the surface again.

  59. patriothere says:

    he was suspended. not fired

  60. Roger says:

    Suspended means a temporary time out.

    He was given a permanent time out.
    That's fired.

  61. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    Why haven't you ever mentioned a girlfriend?

    You sent all Christmas on ID.

  62. patriothere says:

    He was suspended. He wasn't fired

  63. Roger says:

    Permanent hiatus isn't suspended.

    When is his suspension over pray tell?

  64. patriothere says:

    He wasn't fired. He was suspended.

  65. patriothere says:

    He was suspended. Read the story. Facts are not your friends.

  66. Roger says:

    He was put on permanent hiatus.

    "We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson’s comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are not reflected in the series Duck Dynasty," A&E said in a statement. "His personal views in no way reflect those of A+E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community. The network has placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely."

  67. patriothere says:

    he was suspended

  68. Roger says:

    He was put on permanent hiatus then given his job back.

    You don't know more than the PR department of A & E.

  69. patriothere says:

    He wasn't fired. He was suspended

  70. Roger says:

    I realize as a paid poster here you may not merit fresh comments.

    But you may want to at least read the thread when you're pretending to debate.

    What part of the quote I have about 4 comments up the thread is confusing for you?

    And his indefinite Hiatus was rolled back due to people with values the same as his that stood up and spoke up.

    Not due to your flawed thinking.

  71. patriothere says:

    He was suspended. He wasn't fired. His suspension is over.

  72. Roger says:

    Read the statement by A & E and then try again when you have a new comment from your handlers.

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