Obama Unapologetic About Drone Massacre Of Yemen Wedding Party

Michael Thomas
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December 26th, 2013
Updated 12/28/2013 at 8:19 pm

US Continues Extra-Judicial Drone Assassinations In Spite Of Innocents Being Murdered

When will the Obama Administration learn that the highly misguided and illegal use of drones will always come back to haunt them?  No matter how many times they try to justify the unlawful use of deadly force by drones, innocent people are always caught in the middle.  The death of innocent women, children and elderly men has been a constant problem for both the CIA and the entire military chain of command responsible for these cold-blooded murders.

U.S. drone strike on Yemen wedding party kills 17

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Dead victims of the Drone in Ra’ada, Yemen

The US Federal Government appears to be the only one in the world that has unlawfully arrogated power unto itself to commit these extra-judicial assassinations.  Just because the deadly weapons are discharged from drones by remote control does not make these crimes against humanity any more acceptable.  Murder is murder regardless of the weapon that is used.

Most of the nations that have fallen victim to this high tech military aggression by the USA have protested bitterly.  Nevertheless, the CIA and Armed Services continue to support these international crimes.  Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Somalia have complained of the flagrant invasion of their national sovereignty which these missile attacks represent.  Yemen has just voted to ban them on their soil.

Shocking Refusal To Express Public Regret Or Sincere Apology

What is most disturbing about this very sordid and ongoing saga is the persistent refusal of the US Government to issue any kind of apology for these atrocities.  Because of the CIA’s routine lack of acknowledgment of these massacres, even the citizenry of the USA seems to be oblivious to such heinous crimes being committed in their name.  They seem to occur and then are very quickly forgotten just like passing days of the week.  Clearly, this is the most serious byproduct of these barbaric assaults in foreign lands.  That the people have come to accept them as business as usual.

Only because these frequent fatal attacks are not being conducted in Western nations are they somehow justifiable.  They have no legitimacy in international law, common law, natural law or federal law.  Simply put, the drone assassination program operates completely outside of the framework of every body of law in existence, including military law.

How, then, does the USA continue to get away with these repugnant crimes?

There’s only one way.  And that is the very same way that a global bully gets away with all of the military aggression and illicit attacks on other sovereign nations.  The USA has come to embody, without any legitimacy whatsoever, the false precept of:
“Might makes right”.

What is quite evident from the incessant disrespect that US politicians, diplomats and statesmen demonstrate toward many foreign nations is that they know what a military superpower can get away with.  Only because the USA commands such a large military presence around the world, is it able to act which such impunity.  However, such blatant disregard for the human life in so many foreign countries will eventually come back to bite US.

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Yemenis protest against US intervention in their country

What the US and its NATO allies fail to understand is that so much unprovoked violence is being watched by the entire world. Not only are those nations that are victimized by drone attacks angered by such territorial violations; their neighbors, trading partners, and other countries are sympathetic to their plight.

Eventually, the blowback will surely come. Usually that occurs at a time, in a place and in a way that is least expected. Quite similarly to the initial drone surprise attacks conducted by the US and company do violent events regularly take place throughout the USA. Any government which permits these kinds of offensive military strikes, whether on the giving or receiving end, is sure to fall hard when it does.  Despite its perceived invincibility, the USA is no exception.

The victim nations are usually bribed and/or extorted into allowing drone attacks on their soil.

Rarely do you read such a report, but those nations which do not actively prevent such drones from entering their airspace are complicit in these crimes against their citizens.  However, they are usually operating under extreme financial duress, excessive military influence, and/or relentless political pressure when they submit to the bribes and extortion demanded by the Western military powers.

Usually it is the case that such nations have already received ‘generous’ amounts of American largesse.  Such financial aid comes with many strings attached and has enough pork baked in it to satisfy the local politicians.  Whatever the aid may be earmarked for, you can be sure that it is syphoned up by US contractors, companies, surrogates and proxies.  Rarely do the nation’s citizens ever directly benefit from this cynical form of ‘international aid’.

Pakistan is the perfect example of how their military has benefited from the annual US multi-billion dollar ‘stipend’ without any accountability.  Because the Pakistani armed services exert so much influence in governmental affairs, they have given the CIA a green light to commit their drone atrocities without fear of retribution.  Can this incestuous relationship become any more dysfunctional for either party?  Because it takes place completely under the radar of public scrutiny, it continues to fester and produce fierce anti-American sentiments wherever drone attacks occur.

A government which routinely conducts massacres on foreign soil has lost all legitimacy.

How does any of this extremely destructive and ill-conceived foreign policy help America?  By creating more enemies?  By making it more difficult than ever for Americans to travel abroad?  By even turning our traditional friends against us?

Really, who is it that formulates such foolish and outrageous drone implementation plans?  Is it the CIA, ‘Defense’, State, or the White House?  It doesn’t make much sense that any of these organs of US Government would make such self- destructive international policy, does it?

Drone strike that killed at least 15 in a wedding party in Yemen.

Drone strike that killed at least 15 in a wedding party in Yemen.

Therefore, it is now quite transparent that the US is run by a global shadow government which operates completely outside of the Constitution, or any other legal framework for that matter.  By doing so, it has transformed the US Government into a patchwork of rogue institutions, where the rule of law is now practically nonexistent.

Hence, this covert and lawless entity continues to arrogate power unto itself which cannot be challenged.  Who or what is there to confront on behalf of the American people?  To whom does one demand and implore that such cruel extra-judicial killings by drones be stopped.  The American people want these senseless murders to stop.  They especially do no want them conducted in their name and using their tax dollars.

Michael Thomas
State of the Nation
December 26, 2013

Author’s Note:
A very serious question has been raised about the CIA drone policy of targeting wedding parties. Because weddings (and funerals) are well known to bring all elements of the society together under one tent, the US takes advantage of this fact of life.
Therefore, it appears that those who have formulated this policy know in advance that there will always be ‘collateral damage’ as they call it. In other words, the killing of innocents is an ‘unintended consequence’ of their implementation plan to assassinate alleged terrorists who have not been tried or convicted of anything.
Sounds like the real terrorists in this scenario are those pushing the buttons that trigger the drone missile attacks. Their supervisors up the chain of command, who gave the orders, are even more culpable in this terror-producing chain of events.

References:

The US Has Bombed at Least Eight Wedding Parties Since 2001

No holiday for U.S. drones in Pakistan; 3 killed…

DRONES: The Rank Hypocrisy of Barack Obama

Sec. Hagel to Pakistan: Drone Protests & Blocking NATO Convoys; Threatens to cut $1.6 bn Pakistan aid

Five Afghan Children Among Ten Civilians Killed in NATO/US Drone Attack

Drone strike kills 15 ‘wedding party-goers’ in Yemen

Insight – In Yemen, al Qaeda gains sympathy amid U.S. drone strikes

Yemenis protest against US intervention in their country

Air strike kills 15 civilians in Yemen by mistake-officials

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  1. Geoffrey says:

    "The US Federal Government appears to be the only one in the world that has unlawfully arrogated power unto itself to commit these extra-judicial assassinations. Just because the deadly weapons are discharged from drones by remote control does not make these crimes against humanity any more acceptable. Murder is murder regardless of the weapon that is used."

    Sums it all up!

    • WeeToddEdwards says:

      Pretty much.

      • Roger says:

        You seem to overlook the soviet block tactics.

        You also seem to overlook the islamists and their tactics. Just last week there was an assassination attempt in Pakistan.

        • Chantal says:

          You seems to overlook the fact that the US Govt appears to be pretty much the only country who consistently attacks it's own citizen via PsyOps/false flags..
          Trouble is Americans have been so brain-washed, they now even believe Giffords was shot.. although the witch messed up & accidentally used her *wrong* arm, hence has since been outed, though try to find *THAT* in the LSM..
          I don't blame you for believing the p'ganda.. you are in good company, more than 90% are IGNORANT..

          • @johnjperry says:

            Up until the 90% was pulled out of your ass the reply was worth reading. The 90% is statistically not possible. The US Census reports that 23.7% of the population are under the age of majority, this reduces the maximum percentage to 76.3%. According to the US Prisons there are 3% of the population in custody and it's not likely that they would actually give a damn bringing this down to 73.3%. The hard core left comprises 30% of the population, the hard core right comprises 35% and then there are the independents that for reasons that cannot be fathomed actually believe there are more than two sides to any debate.

            30% times BS Factor of 3 must be where your 90% comes from. 90% turns up frequently in any topic dealing with democRATS.

          • Chantal says:

            My, what a class act you are.. However, I do not wish to compete with a single cell organism..
            Ciau..

          • Roger says:

            Alinsky, is that you pretending sanity?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Says the little boy who accuses everyone who does not like him as being Alinsky?

            That is insanity

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you small little man. Back at the work terminal trying to make your quota of comments for the day. Is it still set at 75 comments?

            Anyhow, when alinksy admits to using multiple profiles and impersonating people then he deserves that kind of comment.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You can't show that comment came from Alinsky. You're insane

          • Roger says:

            You can't show that he isn't constantly using that technique.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You can't show Alinsky made that comment.

          • Roger says:

            You can't show it is not him.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I know, which is why I would not claim something I could not prove

          • Roger says:

            You make those kinds of claims constantly.
            Can you prove you don't?

            Oh wee, you small little thing. You just can't help yourself can you? You have to make these wild attacks and can't stand the thought of intelligent debate to the point where you don't care what you say as long as it's off topic.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I back up what I say with links and facts.

            The fact is you can't stand being outsmarted and shown that you are wrong so you stop all discussion

          • Roger says:

            Five comments saying nothing, you must be so proud.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Well I am use to you saying nothing so why would I be proud of you?

          • Roger says:

            Wee, all weekend I was making quality comments involving content of stories and how it applied to our foundational values.

            Why does that threaten you that you and your posse show up to stop any serious dialogues?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Wasn't me. Looks like there is a wave of people coming to attack Roger, probably from the Belefast site he was banned from.

          • Roger says:

            Why pretend after all the work you have been doing?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            No one likes him anymore. He was exposed for the creep he is

          • Roger says:

            Wee, I could turn that around very easily. Is there another site you want to attack as communist and anti-American?

        • WeeToddEdwards says:

          So you are ok with Obama using drones to blow up weddings as long as they are muzzies.
          Nothing better then a bunch of dead muzzies huh? You love violence like this
          How tolerant of you

        • Chantal says:

          Somehow I don't get the sense they like you much on this forum, Roger boy..

          You Are Lucky The Majority Is Dumbed Down, Barack http://youtu.be/bmvl7ntA4y8

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            No one really likes that troll anywhere

          • Roger says:

            And you have been banned at better sites yourself.

            Wee, you are such a small little man.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Only because of you.

            The fact still remains no one realli likes you. You had many people who backed you before and now you have maybe 3. Once a few of us exposed you and your lies your so called only friends left you.

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you small little man.

            I don't worry about trolls liking me or being so nice that you smear my values and religion.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            How about the fact that everybody on ID also hates you?

          • Roger says:

            You trolls sure do.
            I must be doing something right.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            What about all the chistian conservatives that hate you? You keep forgetting to mention them. LDS, Zeb, Top Sh it, Cowboy, Navy,….

          • Roger says:

            You sure do like to use harsh words.
            You also like to portray things in a most bizarre light. They don't agree with my tactics, the fact I bother to dismantle your propaganda. They mistakenly think that if you don't feed a troll they go away. We both know better than that, don't we?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Take it easy, don't have another meltdown,. I am just sy\tating the facts.

            There are no trolls on Speak Out.

            Just five christian conservatives. And they insult you and ask you to leave every time you post there.

          • Roger says:

            I'm not the one pretending the Marines lost to the islamists under Jefferson.

            You made a flawed point that I explained away and you don't like that.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            They did lose.

          • Roger says:

            The islamists lost.
            Revising history only works if nobody remembers the real version.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            However, the more immediate problem of Barbary piracy was not fully settled. By 1807, Algiers had gone back to taking American ships and seamen hostage. Distracted by the preludes to the War of 1812, the U.S. was unable to respond to the provocation until 1815, with the Second Barbary War, in which naval victories by Commodores William Bainbridge and Stephen Decatur led to treaties ending all tribute payments by the U.S.[35]

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I see he had your comment pulled with the link showing he was wrong

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Facts = Report Button in Roger's creepy world.

            He has nowhere else to go.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Yep, pretty pathetic

          • Roger says:

            What is pathetic is the fact that he admitted the US won and you still in your western-hostility can't admit that Jefferson was effective. How much tribute wasn't paid due to Jefferson's action?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You're pathetic

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you small little 'wee' thing. You are not in a position to name call with any credibility.

            And you didn't even pretend to discuss the issue or story content, trolls are so predictable that way.

            Wee, this site must really threaten your agenda. Free thinking, western style liberty and individual choice seem to always set you trifecta of trolls off.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You call it name calling I call it bbeing truthful. You call people names all day long a lie you pathetic hypocrite

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you small little thing.
            Truth telling has an element of truth to it.

            And that makes you the one who appears pathetic and a hypocrite.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            But you are incapable of telling the truth

          • Roger says:

            Wee the truth is you appear to think and post comment consistent with you being a very small little man.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Really prove it?

            I am more man than you will ever be

          • Roger says:

            Remember explaining your posts this way?

            18 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Obama's #OccupyWallStr… · 1 reply · 0 points
            Time waster. What muslium friends?

            Oh yeah, I love making your blood pressure sky high

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            A comment meant for Breitbart made 3 years ago?

            You love ,making yourself look foolish

          • Roger says:

            No, I'm explaining your views in your own voice.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Out of context. Something you're a master of

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you were rather specific.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            about that web sit

          • Roger says:

            That wasn't the only comment you have made with a potentially violent theme.That wasn't the only comment of that vi potentiThere are alternate sources of fate.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Let the reframing of Roger's argument begin. That's what happens when he must face the facts.

            He went from Jefferson winning the war to just being "effective" in paying less ransom.

            However, Jefferson quit office in discrace because of his UNEFFECTIVE actions in that war. Driven off by the merchants and other businessmen that hated him for not protecting their goods.

            Then Jefferson went back home and raped his slaves.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            He always reframes and this is a great examaple.

            It just shows he is not here for debate or discussion. Only to drag the site down

          • Roger says:

            Says the guy who realizes he's a 'wee' little thing?

            And who has been trying to derail this with the Barbary war victories?

            You trolls must be very frightened of this site and the success they have had here.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Reframe again huh?

          • Roger says:

            Keeping you trifecta of trolls from changing the argument again?

            Wee, this really is more than you can handle.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            But you're the troll. It is time for you to quit denying your true identity. Everyone knows you are except you

          • Roger says:

            Wee, the small little man such as yourself does lash out a lot.

            But I'm not the one re-writing history and clogging the threads with muslim friendly talking points.

            Touche, you just can't keep up.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You have your own version of histroy and have been shown time and time again why you are wrong

          • Roger says:

            And I just provided a source and link. The last time you did that was to a foreign country and it was years old. Wee, have you noticed that you're not up to this?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            The link I provided was to their current web site

          • Roger says:

            Then why did you pick their UK wite and wy was the pic and informtaion old?Wee

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I used thier current web site and what they look for in resturants around the world. The fact is KFC offers drive thru servicer no matter how much you deny it

          • Roger says:

            The date was years old, and it was in the UK, anothe rcountry entirely. We, you aren't up to this are yo?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Um no it was the currewnt web site they are using and it doews not matter what coountry it was from. KFC offers drive thru service no matter how much you deny it you are WRONG

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you realize that people can go to the link and see for themselves?You are a legend in your own mind

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            They sure can and I hope they doThey sure can here I will post it again:

          • Roger says:

            Changed links, did you realize I wass right?Wee

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            He has dragged down more conservative sites in his pursuit for you affections, that Hillary now has a good chance of winning in 2016.

          • Roger says:

            Still desperate enough to do anything to detract from the site? He has been making an impact, no wonder you as a group of trolls are so threatened by this site.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Here I will post the link again: http://www.kfc.com/about/franchises.asp

          • Roger says:

            Cahanged links, what happened did you realize I was right? Wee, this must be hard for you.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Nope, same link. Franchise link that links to every country they have resturants in. YOu were wrong you saud KFC DOES NOT OFFER DRIVE THRU SERVICE.

            I showed you lied about that. Time to move on

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you areally are funny. This is the link you posted before. It's on page 14 of your comment stream right now, but with your dailyquota that won't last long.

            Wee

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            So you just read throug h14 pages of my comments? What a stalkeing creep you are. Who has time for that? A person with no life or friends.

          • Roger says:

            You shows that they were hoping for that in the UK and during 2008. Its' on page 15 of yorucomment stream.Wee

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            YOu claim KFC does not offer drive thru service and you were wrong

          • Roger says:

            You howed hey wanted it in theUK in 2008.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            YOu claim KFC does not offer drive thru service you were wrong and they do. I even linked pictures to there drive thru menus

          • Roger says:

            You showed the UK has them in an ideal rsetting in the UK from 2008. Wee you are proving to be the troll by clogging the threads with arguments that have nothing to do with anything other than your agenda to drive folks away. Are you goign to admit you have the same goals as patriothere?Wee

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You claim KFC does not offer drive thru service. I showed you were wrong. Here is a picture of one: https://www.google.com/search?q=kfc+drive+thru+me

          • Roger says:

            Still tryiung to bore everythie to death? Still can't rise to any good decent topics or actually debate the issues/

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            If you're bored why do you continue to reply? Just admit you were wrong and move on.

          • Roger says:

            Why can't you just make quality comments that aren't boring and are on topic?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Why can't you just admit you were wrong?

          • Roger says:

            Why can't you admit you and your posse are here to ruin th e site?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I came to this site to get away from you as I have many other sites yet you continue to stalk me

          • Roger says:

            Wee go back and read the actual comments. KFC isn't known fore it's affordable food. affordability and convenience were the oissues. yoru photos may answer that some KFC's have convenience, but not in the area I lived in and it doesn't show taht people should eat there or that it's healthy. You are cherry picking in the normal fashio you use to derail adn stop debate.It only proves you portray it that way. Not that you didn't post it originally then pull the comment.

          • Roger says:

            Wee, it is this link. From 2008 and from the UK. http://www.kfcdevelopment.co.uk/what-we-are-looki

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            And that proves I was right and you were wrong.

          • Roger says:

            It proves that KFC wanted them in the UK in 200u. Wee, cant' you troll with another less boring topic? Or are you going to admit you dont' come here to be interesting or topical?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You claim KFC did not offer drive thru service. Here is pictures of drive thru menus in the USA: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imgh

            Now admit you were wrong

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you didn't prove anything with the link you used.

            Why don't you admit you're not here for the topics the site provides?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Yes I did. It was pictures of the drive thru menus in the USA. You lied and said KFC did not offer drive thru.

          • Roger says:

            Wee, that pic had no location or date on it. Wee, you really are exposing your agenda for being here, and it's not to discuss the topics the site provides.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            YOU made the claim KFC did not offer drive thru serice I even gave you a link with pictures in the USA and you still deny it. That proves you're a troll

          • Roger says:

            Wee, go to that story and discuss it there.

            Trolling is for one reason only, to stop debate and discussion.

          • Roger says:

            Why would I let you reframe what I said into something else entirely?

            It's a liberal debate tactic, but I'm going to point out every time you try using it.

            Jefferson won, stopped the tribute we couldn't afford and faced the war of 1812 against the largest naval power at the time while doing so.

            You sure do like to change facts.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Jefferson PAID the tribute and it did nothing.

            So he stopped paying.

            And the pirate kept on killing stealing and raping under Jefferson.

            He lost.

          • Roger says:

            You trolls are so desperate to diminish this site, aren't you?
            http://history1800s.about.com/od/americanwars/tp/

            "In the early years of the 19th century, the United States, at the direction of President Thomas Jefferson, decided to halt the payment of tribute. A war between the small and scrappy American Navy and the Barbary pirates ensued."

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Yes, keep going..

            "A decade later, a second war settled the issue of American ships being attacked by pirates. "

            A DECADE LATER, you foolish man.

          • Roger says:

            So, you admit that your claim on tribute was wrong?

            And the fact we went back again to finish the job only means they didn't take a hint. They had been capturing ships since the crusades, and frankly it took more than one dose of 'whoop ass' to cure the problem.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            What claim of tribute did I make?

            "we went back to finish the job" = Roger reframing the argument.

            Jefferson wasn't president. a decade later.
            As I said, and you denied, Jefferson lost the war. then he quit office and went back home to rape his slaves.

          • Roger says:

            You don't even know what you posted?

            Alinsky, now much medical marijuana have you used today?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You were too vague on purpose.

            Jefferson wasn't president. a decade later.
            As I said, and you denied, Jefferson lost the war. then he quit office and went back home to rape his slaves.

            So you admit you were wrong about the thing you said. .

          • Roger says:

            You just can't admit to defeat can you?

            "In April 1805 the US Navy, with U.S. Marines, launched an operation against the port of Tripoli. The objective was to install a new ruler.

            The detachment of Marines, under the command of Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon, led a frontal assault on a harbor fort at the Battle of Derna. O'Bannon and his small force captured the fort.

            Marking the first American victory on foreign soil, O'Bannon raised an American flag over the fortress. The mention of the "shores of Tripoli" in the "Marine's Hymn" refers to this triumph."

            Can you post a new wiki entry to lie about it?

            http://history1800s.about.com/od/americanwars/tp/

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            That happened AFTER Jefferson left OFFICER you stupid fool!!!!!!!

          • Roger says:

            Sounds like the entire nation was behind Jefferson even afterhe left office then. So much for your other lies about that.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            No, Jefferson quit fighting after he lost, so the nation turned against him, then /MMadison took over the job and Americans watched as he finished it. Like Obma getting Bin Laden.

          • Roger says:

            Pretend all you want. That doesn't change history.

          • Roger says:

            Wee, he just admitted that the US won. That is completely contrary to his earlier comments.

            And while you, a wee little man struggles to keep up I noticed more of my comments were pulled on this same thread.

            His link showed I was correct, in spite of any claims to the contrary.

          • Roger says:

            Wee, it seems that a comment didn't deserve a place here on this adult forum.

            And it didn't show I was wrong. You make the most humorous claims. If I didn't know better I would think you gave up on any credibility.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            His comment did not insult anyone and it had a link showing you were wrong. You had it pulled like the coward and troll you are

          • Roger says:

            Wee, I can say that about all my comments that go away when you show up. And I don't make comments about your possible sexual history.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            So you have comments pulled that speak the truth. What a coward

          • Roger says:

            So I don't appreciate a sexually deviant stalker trying to introduce any possible sexual activities into the site.

            Wee, even a small little man like you should understand that.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            But it's ok for you stalk people huh hypocrite

          • Roger says:

            Using the system and forum as it's intended isn't stalking. Your stopping debate and discussion is rather trollish however.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You're a stalker and use the system to stalk me

          • Roger says:

            Wee, your definition of stalking is curious at best.

            And you are here voluntarily. I don't advocate any violence outside of self defense can you say the same?

            9 hours ago @ Pissed Off Pirate – It seems that the time… · 0 replies · +2 points
            He acts like the classic High School Bully. I would smack him in the nose if I could.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You even admit you stalk me:
            Roger 160p • 1 hour ago
            And I wouldn't stalk you if you weren't such a hack.

            You do act like a high school bully

          • Roger says:

            Wee, the system is designed for followers. It's a voluntary participation in which I have not advocated any violence towards anyone.

            Wee, at best I am an inconvenience for you when you try to attack and derail a site with your posse.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I know what it is designed for, however you admitted you stalk me

          • Roger says:

            Wee, following the designs of the system in a peaceful and non violent way may not exactly agree with the definition of stalking.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            That would be all fine and dandy, but you admitted you stalk me

          • Roger says:

            WEe, let me cry you a river. A open moderated debate on a voluntary site scares you?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            When have you ever had an open minded debate? Once again you admit you are a stalker

          • Roger says:

            So, we won.
            Why do you think you can re-write history?

            And Jefferson did halt the payment of tribute, a victory that stood even if you choose to overlook it.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Why do you think YOU can?

            Jefferson was a great man with anti Christian thinking

            "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites" –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.

          • Roger says:

            He understood about the Christian/Judeo based Creator mentioned in the Declaration of independence.

            Wee, you small little man. You really are threatened by this site, or the trolls wouldn't be here to derail it.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            "“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.” —Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

          • Roger says:

            And yet he still understood our creator was the source of our rights.

            And I notice you selected a quote that wanted to do away with errors, not saying Christian doctrine was that error.

            You have carefully inserted your definitions into his quote, that doesn't work Wee, you once again are a small little man.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Jefferson paid a HUGE "tribute" RAMSOM, and the pirates went back to what they were doing anyway.

            They lost under Jefferson.

          • Roger says:

            You sure can pretend the most curious of things.

            Why do you push so hard to make islamists sound like a formidable force?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Islamists have God an their side, so of course they never lose. That's why they have all the oil and always win in war.

          • Roger says:

            Yet after all the attacks and terrorist strikes Israel stands.

            It seems allah is helpless against the Almighty of the Israel.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            They have the same God.

          • Roger says:

            That almost sounds good until you look at what their different allah requires, and what the Almighty requires.

            How they fight, how they subdue, how they administer justice and every other matrix to compare the two.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            God and Jesus require different things too. But they are the same.

          • Roger says:

            Alinsky, how does that have anything to do with the story?

            I realize you as a muslim loyal troll are here to disrupt and distract. But really, try to focus.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You made a comment earlier, lying about Jefferson winning against the Muslims during his time in office. I pointed out you were lying, or just don't know history, then you asked why I defend Islamists, so I told you that I was just pointing out the facts in history, so then you got upset and tried to distract from your historical ignorance and started asking me what God has to do with this story.

          • Roger says:

            You claim that's what I said.

            You really can't win any debate when it' abased on falsehoods you know.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            You are really pathetic, when you get caught in your lies.

            You follow the typical denial of a pathological liar when faced with the facts,

            I love it.

            All shall see.

          • Roger says:

            Pathitic? That's ignoring history to use talking points. So, are you going to say the barbary pirates won the war? How abou the second war?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            They did not win. arqre a pathlogical liar.

          • Roger says:

            Like the somalian pirates? Hahahahaha….

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            I have exposed you as a pathological liar.

          • Roger says:

            You have just exposedyourself as someont never here for intelligent debate.

          • Roger says:

            Chantal, why does that make me wrong?

            Just because the trolls are working this site over doesn't mean that I should compromise my values as they try to destroy this forum.

          • Chantal says:

            I have no problem discussing with someone who disagrees, but I tune out those who use your type language as I value myself..

          • Roger says:

            My type of language?
            That sounds so Alinsky!

          • patriothere says:

            By trolls are you referring to yourself?

          • Roger says:

            Nope, the paid trolls like you.

          • nebraskanitwit says:

            I'm beginning to think you're the paid troll. Anyone who shares the opinions you claim to have is discredited by association with your dimwitted commentary.

          • Roger says:

            Because alinsky says so?

            Yeah, why not say all trolls associated with you are discredited?

          • patriothere says:

            Like you you mean

          • Roger says:

            nope.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            "I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out."

            Why does this site so frighten you trolls that you struggle like this to subvert the threads?

          • patriothere says:

            You're the only one that ignores the context and the typo. Proving you are a troll

          • Roger says:

            you deny the context and pretend it was a typo.

            Want to derail the thread more and defend goat brides again?

          • patriothere says:

            I wrote what was there. I know what I wrote. You ignore the context and the typo. Only you do that. You prove you are a troll

          • Roger says:

            Really, says the guy that defends goat brides and jizya tax?

            You weren't eve posting on this profile then, or the other two examples I just gave. Didn't they let you find out what was said before you started?

          • patriothere says:

            You ignore the typo and the context. You're the troll

          • Roger says:

            You said exactly what you meant, well the troll posting on the profile at the time did.

          • patriothere says:

            You're the troll. You ignore the context and the typo. I know what I meant and anybody with a brain can infer what I meant.

          • Roger says:

            Your profile said what it wanted to post.
            Which ever posted it was rather hot tempered and blew his stack easily. Is that why he was replaced?

          • patriothere says:

            You're a paid troll

          • Roger says:

            Nope, but thanks for saying I'm good at the comments I post.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            He does project alot

          • Roger says:

            Poor little wee.
            And you lash out a lot.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Really? Pove it

          • Roger says:

            Your last two comments prove it for me.

            You really aren't up to this.

          • whoknowsU says:

            Chantal, Roger is the Internet troll King of Kings.
            He has no life besides barfing some trash.
            Just disregard this small little man.

          • Roger says:

            Alinsky, still talking to yourself?

          • whoknowsU says:

            You are barking up the wrong tree. Find another one to hug.

          • Roger says:

            As if you ever tell the truth?

          • patriothere says:

            find another person to torment

          • Roger says:

            Why? Didn't you say your allah demanded you suffer?

            1 hour ago @ Big Government – Holocaust Denier Norma… · 0 replies · +1 points
            'trying to being down the roman empire rat boy!

            god demands jihad and suicide bombers. Obviously.'

          • patriothere says:

            no. that's your god

          • patriothere says:

            your god is evil

          • Roger says:

            Keep saying that and what happens?

            Nothing. If you say that about allah what happens?

            So, there are two lessons from that. islam is violent and allah is evil.

          • patriothere says:

            everything you dolt!

          • Roger says:

            It's called an honor killing.

          • patriothere says:

            it's called islamaphobia

          • Roger says:

            It's called being aware of a lethal danger.

          • patriothere says:

            No, it's called islamaphobia

          • Roger says:

            Nope, it's being aware of a lethal danger.
            Ask the folks in Fallujah.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            the christian god is evil

            allah is evil

            Nothing happened, maybe because both gods are man made

          • Roger says:

            Wee, that al taqiyya only covers so much you know.

            You haven't shown the Almighty is evil. You just have explained with flawed attacks you don't like Him.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            This is evil. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

          • Roger says:

            God stopped human sacrifice.

            Wee, if you don't like the ancient Jews why not just say so?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            I don't like the ancient Jews. Or the Christians that stole their God.

          • Roger says:

            I grow tired of nonsensical gibberish.
            But, here you are.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Then why do you continue to post nonsensical gibberish and stalk people?

          • Roger says:

            You post hate filled rants, why shouldn't I counter them with reason and logic?

            Wee, you small little man. How many comments on your quota of comments today from that work terminal?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Killing 1, 862,265 people is evil. No getting around it. Why do you support genocide?

          • Roger says:

            It is when islamists do it.
            And why do you not support the Christian Egyptian Copts?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Killing over a million people is genocide and you support it. You love killing when it is done in teh name of christianity

          • Roger says:

            I support God making the call instead of a bunch of illiberal jihadists.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            So you support genocide you sick, sick man

          • Roger says:

            Of course not, why do you think I support islamists?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            God created Satan, and lets him do as he pleases.

          • Roger says:

            God permitted you to exist and we know what kind of things you seem to do.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Really? Prove it

          • Roger says:

            Prove me wrong.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            So you can't prove it.

            Check mate

          • Roger says:

            So, the small little man can't prove his point, yet again.

            You are so predictable.
            You really need to quit checking yourself, it's not becoming.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I asked you to prove something and you faild as usual.

            You're done

          • Roger says:

            And I laid the same standard for you and you failed as usual.

            I'm done mocking you, well… maybe not. Why do you think that you can lay down standards that you refuse to meet?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            And God let Hitler do as he pleases, and then sends Hurricanes and earthquakes, and tornados to kill people.

          • Roger says:

            And here you are. Wow, you sure do seem to compare yourself to more powerful things and people.

            I was thinking something low, small and cold blooded would be more appropriate for you.

        • patriothere says:

          You seem to overlook that peace is possible .

  2. Analyst says:

    "Really, who is it that formulates such foolish and outrageous drone implementation plans? Is it ‘Defense’, State, or the White House? It doesn’t make much sense that any of these organs of US Government would make such self- destructive international policy, does it?"

  3. Morgan S. says:

    Very much appreciate this "perspective with a conscience", Michael.

    "Nobel Committee Obligated to Strip Obama of Peace Prize" http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=1759

  4. WeeToddEdwards says:

    It is time for these drones attacks to stops. They make us look like terrorists

    • Roger says:

      When the terrorists no longer want to kill us we can all live in peace.

    • Mr. Liberty says:

      Agreed Wee.

      I think its time we leave the Middle East all together. No need to associate with people who will never change. You figure we would have learned this from being in Iraq and Afghanistan for over a decade…

      These people cannot free themselves from oppression of their Religious Fundamental governments because they actually prefer tyranny and control instead of freedom and democracy. So be it, let’s stop sacrificing our troops for nothing. Let’s stop killing innocent civilians.

      Our involvement will never cease in the Middle East I am afraid, because of the military industrial complex.

      • WeeToddEdwards says:

        Well said Mr. Liberty.

        • Roger says:

          I can imagine you would want us to leave tyranny grinding down the masses. And as a plus it allows the islamists to retrench and prepare to go after us next.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Of course I feel for people living under tyrannical rule, but sooner or later those people have to take action themselves. It cannot fall on the United States to police the world of all tyranny.

            Heck we have enough tyranny in our own country to deal with.

            Remember too, Roger, that the US thrived when it was isolationist. God has blessed this land with enough resources to survive on our own.

          • Roger says:

            The world was a much simpler place when we were isolationist.
            All you had to do was watch for sails on the horizon, or Japanese bombers over the sea. Pearl Harbor pretty much laid to rest that we can hide behind our borders.

            We do have resources. We don't need the 3rd world countries. We should defend the border. But all that said, the Byzantines didn't last long by being reactionary. We face real threats and taking advantage of every opportunity is the only way we might outlast them.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            Everyone please read:
            http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/featur

            An excellent speech by JFK. His ideas can provide a path to peace with the Muslim world just as it did with the Soviet Union.

          • Roger says:

            Do you get the strong feeling that JFK would not have fit in with today's marxist democrat party very well?

            There are reasonable muslims. But not reasonable islamists. Christianity faced it's corruption and had an internal reformation. Until that happens with islam, how do you reason with fanatics that only have one reason for existence?

          • nebraskanitwit says:

            Look at that, way up in the sky. Do you see it? I think it's the point.

          • Roger says:

            Perhaps to you. But not to people smart enough to understand the nature of the adversary we face in today's world.

            See the sky? They don't care about that sky.
            Your comment almost has the ring of the 'socratic method' to it. Is that what you were shooting for?

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            JFK did not fit into the globalist ran government when he was president, that is why he was assassinated. He probably wouldn't even be in politics today with his ideas of liberty, peace, and individualism.

            You are right Roger about Islam needing reformation. But we as Christians or America in general cannot have a say in their reformation (as corrupted, racist, and violent as the Islamic faith is). It is up to them, and until that time comes I say we completely cut ties with them and their governments.

            A colleague of mine had a very valid point when I brought up the above JFK speech to her. She said that Islam and Communism are different. I of course agreed but the main reason the two beliefs are different she went on to say is because radical Islamists believe that war is the only way to bring back their messiah. I agree that some Islamists think that way, which provides further strength to your point of reformation. I know of the threats these type of people pose to the US and the rest of the world, but I also know that our government is funding them either with weapons, cash, or training. So we have plenty of issues to resolve here at home. Including trying people in our government for treason. Punishable by death.
            http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/03/its-offic

          • Roger says:

            We don't buy the rope that they will hang us with, we also tie the knot and build the scaffold.

          • Mr. Liberty says:

            It is all done by design brother.

  5. Mr.Lincoln says:

    The girl killed by Barack Obama – she never saw it coming

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqqz_KLU4Ys

  6. In the international politics, the competition of the soft power is more brutal, more subtle, and it brings a war without gun smoke.The extreme financial duress, excessive military influence, and/or relentless political pressure makes most of the sovereign nation and innocent people fallen victim to this high tech military aggression.
    Western global hegemony existent persistently in this peaceful world. People all over the world should boycott such powers.

  7. Mr.Lincoln says:

    We see four major abuses perpetrated by the federal government. These abuses are not mere instances of bad policy. They are driving us towards an age of "soft tyranny" in which the government does not shatter men's wills but "softens, bends, and guides" them. If we do nothing to halt these abuses, we run the risk of becoming, as Alexis de Tocquevill warned in 1840, nothing more than "a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd." (Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, 1840)
    http://www.conventionofstates.com/learn-problem

    • Roger says:

      It's no big wonder the statists want us to ignore all history and all warnings about tyrants.

      • Mr.Lincoln says:

        They are the ones embracing all of the power for themselves as well as our wealth we once had as a nation one upon a time!

        "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" arose as part of a quotation by the expansively named and impressively hirsute John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton, first Baron Acton (1834–1902). The historian and moralist, who was otherwise known simply as Lord Acton, expressed this opinion in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

  8. Mr. Liberty says:

    How about Alinsky, Wee, and Roger take a break from one another. Each of you accuse each other of derailing threads when its your constant bickering like fifth grade sissies that actually do the derailing. Why don’t you guys try being respectful to one another and debate with some class? I’ve been on this site almost as long as you all and you each have valid points but all of it gets washed away in your petty arguments.

    Sorry for venting :)

    • Roger says:

      To think you can vent without attacking anyone's religion.
      You didn't call anyone names and you had a point to the comment.

      What an improvement over some here.

      • Mr. Liberty says:

        That's the thing Roger, we all realize that America is in a bad way. We may differ on how to fix it but in order to get anything done our country as a hole has to be more respectful towards one another and honestly look at each issue and discuss the best possible solutions. Attacking one another is exactly what the globalist want. It is a distraction from their agenda.

    • WeeToddEdwards says:

      Well said Mr. Liberty and I agree. I get tired of him replying to every single comment I make. It got old 2.5 years ago.

      • Roger says:

        Wee, so you're back at your work terminal again.
        What is your quota for today?

        • WeeToddEdwards says:

          Did you not see what people want? They are tired of this constant back and forth between us. Give it a rest roger move on and grow up

          • Roger says:

            Let me guess, you want a 'hudna'?

            I realize hudna isn't a cease fire, it's a time to rearm.
            Wee, you are here as voluntarily as I am. You know the forum is set up for debate (a two sided discussion) If you have positions that can be defended then go for it. I'll keep defending mine.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            No, I want you to quit stalking me like the creep you are. People are tired of seeing us go back and forth. It's old roger, grow up and move on.

            Defend you postions, that does not mean you have to stalk all my comments and reply to them. If I went to a new site you would leave this site and stalk me to a new one. YOU have done that for three years

          • Roger says:

            Wee, and I'd wish you made substantiative comments without attacking my religion and values. It's time you realize that debate works both ways and that this voluntary forum is designed for back and forth, even if you don't like it.

            Wee, there is a saying about heat and being in the kitchen.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Where did I say one thing about religion today?

            No where, but yet here you are stalking and replying to all my comments no matter what. That is NOT debate. That is stalking.

            It's not me that does not like your stalking it's everyone.

          • Roger says:

            You're entitled to your opinions. That's part of debate. Not intelligent debate, but part of debate.

            You've been busy using this website to prove that in the US today that KFC has drive throughs. http://www.kfcdevelopment.co.uk/what-we-are-looki
            the copy write at the bottom is 2008 and the top is for the UK.

            Wee, this is why you have no credibility, you complain I am stalking but then you go around being so nonsensical? You respond to a complaint about wasting time and space here by posting now many comments about a drive through in the UK?

            My pointing it out may not be pleasant for you, but can't you even pretend to be here for the topics the site so carefully lays out?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You made the claim that KFC does not offer drive thru service. You were wrong and refuse to admit it. Here is pictures of drive thru menus in the USA:
            <a href="https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=754&q=kfc+drive+thru+menus+USA&oq=kfc+drive+thru+menus+USA&gs_l=img.3…1139.5533.0.6317.24.12.0.12.12.0.146.1362.2j10.12.0….0…1ac.1.32.img..6.18.1305.tMuj6umSZLM#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=nZJnkrf7vsLyOM%3A%3Btl0IuDKIdN_5sM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimg.groundspeak.com%252Fwaymarking%252Ff16a2c13-843b-4531-83b0-ad01edddb002.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252 Fwww.waymarking.com%252Fgallery%252Fimage.aspx%253Ff%253D1%2526guid%253De5491ada-0c73-41da-9411-4c65f10e25f2%3B3648%3B2736″ target=”_blank”>https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imgh…” target=”_blank”>Fwww.waymarking.com%252Fgallery%252Fimage.aspx%253Ff%253D1%2526guid%253De5491ada-0c73-41da-9411-4c65f10e25f2%3B3648%3B2736

          • Roger says:

            Wee, the KFC's in my area don't. You have shown that some are wanted in the UK from a 2008 copywrite. I've reminded you of the link you used, if you want to provide a new and different one that's another issue. Photo's without locations or dates only prove they exist someplace, not where I live.

            Why would you act like derailing this thread is more important than serious debate?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I did provide a different one up above. That is the 2013 kFC drive thru menu pictures.

            You made the claim that KFC did not offer drive thru service. In your area maybe they don't. But that is not the case everywhere which you claimed.

            Why would you think you can be shown to be wrong and continue to claim you're right and think you can get away with lying?

          • Roger says:

            Wee go back and read the actual comments. KFC isn't known for it's affordable food. affordability and convenience were the issues. your photos may answer that some KFC's have convenience but you didn't show it was where I lived and it was on a story about fast food, not this story here. So, you dragged an off topic issue here that didn't even address the thread and you pretend to be relevant? Why does this site frighten you enough that you go to these extreme measures to stop the serious nature of the comments?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            You made the claim that KFC does not offer drive thru service. Admit you were wrong and I am done with the topic. My photos show KFC offers drive thru service something you claim they don't

            Frighten me? I love this site. They only need to change one thing and that is get rid of you for wrecking threads and trolling

          • Roger says:

            Wee. I'll admit that you brought a topic here from another story when it's off topic and not relevant in a way that allows you to ignore the actual debate that was going on.

            You still haven't shown that the KFC's around my area had any or that these drive in menu's are from the US or even very recent.

            And why does this site frighten you enough that you will destroy any credibility that might still exist to drive folks away.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I posted a link that showed the drive thru menus in the USA for 2013. That's pretty recent. HOwever you never claimed that your area KFC did not offer drive thrus you claimed KFC does not offer drive thrus.

            This site does not frighten me. Matter of fact if you left this site would be perfect

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you can't bother to go to the story so that comments are on topic?

            Why don't you play by the same rules as everyone else?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Why do you think you can control where people post comments?

            It is on topic and what I have shown is that even when you are shown to be wrong and lied you won't admit it

          • Roger says:

            Wee, the site has carefully controlled content in the stories. If you don't like that format you aren't forced to come here and post. Are you?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I do like the format. You're the one pretending to tell people where they can post comments and what they can post. You can keep making insane demands, no one will listen

          • Roger says:

            Once more you just keep babbling about anything other than the carefully supplied story content.

          • patriothere says:

            KFC has drive thrus. You were wrong.

          • Roger says:

            Patriot, you haven't shown mine do.
            You are grasping and why did you have wee come in to do your heavy lifting for you. Is your posse still that tight? I know when you slipped and admitted to your agenda 'oh so quiet' dropped out of site, Is he know part of the group attacking and spamming this site?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            "I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out."

    • Alinsky Hero USA says:

      Liberty. I will leave this site and not return if you can name one valid point that Roger has made.

      • WeeToddEdwards says:

        Looks like you will be around for a long time

        • Alinsky Hero USA says:

          Liberty's head just exploded.

          • Roger says:

            You are a legend in your own mind, and only in your own mind.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Not a vaild point roger. You are making this harder for Liberty.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I think Liberty will see roger for who he really is and why roger is the problem.

          • Roger says:

            Wee, there is a problem.
            One of us only comes during work hours and clogs the threads.
            Only one of us thinks they can decide who answers them.

            One of us is here off and on and makes substantiative comments one stories as they are posted. One of us understands debate.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            rog, yes their is a problem.
            One of us trolls the threads all hours of the day and night and clogs the threads
            Only one of us replies to every comment one of us makes and stalks that person (that is you)

            One of was here first and often and contributes to the discussion until you show up and ruin the thread. Only one of us understands debate, and that is not you

          • Roger says:

            Wee, you are entitled to that opinion, but that doesn't mean you're going to be taken seriously.

            One of us thinks posting from his work terminal during business hours to push a 'anti-west' agenda regarding religion, the court system and so many other issues. It's not me.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            What happened to the man who said

            that nothing could separate us.

          • Roger says:

            Can't you pretend you're here for debate on the topics?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Maybe I just want to hear how that story you told ends.

          • Roger says:

            Can't you pretend you are here for debate on the topics this site provides for us to discuss?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Someone's either a smoker or a nonsmoker, there's no in-between.

          • Roger says:

            And is that way of saying you have no intention of discussing the topics provided by the site?

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            I always had this kind of temper.

          • Roger says:

            There are anger management classes, this site isn't for that sort of issue.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            What good is learning if you'll be with different people each time?

          • Roger says:

            Some ethical people think that different people are brought into our lives so we can learn and grow. It's about us becoming more, stretching our limits and becoming better for it.

            There are sites for that, this isn't one of them.

          • Alinsky Hero USA says:

            Thanks to fate, the cosmic force with a tragic sense of humour,

          • Roger says:

            There are alternate sources of fate.
            We get to choose the one that shapes us.

            And as much as I'm surprised by your lucid and seemingly rational comments this isn't the site for it.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Of course it's you:

            Roger 162p • 4 days ago
            My chuckle is that Iran is going to slip one through our admittedly very porous southern border and then detonate this in a US city…

            Roger 165p • 6 minutes ago
            No, you know I'm not for the things that made this country great.

            Roger 166p • 6 minutes ago
            No, just more of your sexy goats.

          • Roger says:

            Wee, that top one, it was a quote of your comment. Made shortly after you declared jihad and advocated a town was locked in a church and burned to death.

            The second was responding to you claiming things made this country great, it wasn't what I intended but still stands since I don't think those things made my country great.

            The third one? Why did you think your goats were sexy? Correct me if I'm wrong, of course. But you never disputed that they were more than just milk goats.

            And can't you even pretend to be here for the topics the site provides?

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            None of those words were mine you can lie all you want. Your quotes are here for all to see and since you're a know liar and what makes you think anyone will believe the excuses you made up?

          • Roger says:

            wee that first quote was yours. I don't advocate violence outside of self defense, ever. Deny it all you want, but it isn't something I'd come up with.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            Sure you do and that quote proves it

          • Roger says:

            It only proves you portray it that way. Not that you didn't post it originally then pull the comment.

            Wee, why you said It originally I don't know. That you pulled it says that you realized just how bad it was. But instead of repudiating the comment you still deny saying it.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I would never say something like that and it is your writing style not mine.

          • Roger says:

            But I remember you posting it, and then it being gone after I challenged you on it, but before I could go to your comment stream and clipping the entire thing.

            Wee, why not just say you changed your mind?
            Even patriot claims his admission on agenda is a typo.

          • WeeToddEdwards says:

            I would never say something like. Look at the writing style. That is YOUR writing style.

            You're a liar

          • Roger says:

            Wee, deny it all you want. That doesn't change my using that quote was quoting it as it appeared, and it appeared under your profile and quickly disappeared.

  9. hese abuses are not mere instances of bad policy. They are driving us towards an age of "soft tyranny" in which the government does not shatter men's wills but "softens,

  10. patriothere says:

    This guy is a relentless troll. He won't stop no matter what.

  11. whoknowsU says:

    This guy is totally confused. I'm not impersonating anybody. I'm not you or anybody else. I think I'm going to report him.

  12. Roger says:

    And you are a paid hack that won't stop until you drive everyone out go the temple/site.

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    "I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out."

    The troll trifecta, Wee is probably going to join in when he logs into his work terminal in the morning.

  13. Roger says:

    Poor alinsky, so many faces and names to hide behind.

    1 hour ago @ Conservative Victory 2012 – Florida Attorney Gener… · 0 replies · 0 points
    "Nice to see all the conservative idiots off Breitbart and sucking their toes on websites where no one will ever read them.

    HAAAHAHAHA!!

    We won!!!

    I still go on Breitbart as an imposter and use all your names."

    You are too much a coward to use your own.

  14. patriothere says:

    please do

  15. patriothere says:

    You only ignore the typo and the context. Figures. I would expect nothing less from a troll

  16. patriothere says:

    islam means peace

  17. Roger says:

    it means submission.

  18. Roger says:

    That comment was never written or posted by me.

    Can't you make up one better than that?

  19. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    You did write and post it.,

  20. Roger says:

    No, I did not.
    If you want to make up quotes you should at least be imaginative.

  21. WeeToddEdwards says:

    Roger 162p • 4 days ago
    My chuckle is that Iran is going to slip one through our admittedly very porous southern border and then detonate this in a US city…

  22. WeeToddEdwards says:

    You do realize even though you showed he was wrong he will ignore it

  23. WeeToddEdwards says:

    His stalking is creepy. I just don't understand why he won't grow up. He has no idea on how to move on with life. People are tired of watching this back and forth.

  24. Roger says:

    So, which troll is pretending to be a regular person now?

    You are exactly the kind of posse that was dragged here to make inane comments and you seem to have been trying for the effect of disrupting the site. Why is that? How many of your comments have been the kind of comments you think I should make?

  25. FoundSanity says:

    No Roger. You spread falsehoods about your "debate" with Wee (and the rest of them). You are like the proverbial kid in the playground, that everyone enjoyed torturing, just so they could hear you squall. The louder you squall, the more they pull your ears. You are a pathetic excuse of a human being. You drove the people at Breitbart nuts. You played your same games at Navy's site; reporting every person and every comment you did not like, while constantly emailing on your "back channel" to the administrators about your "score" and getting the thumbs down or thumbs up button fixed, so you could get the most points. Then when they ran you off, you pulled the same stunt with the 9/11 Wolverine site, and the Christian Kids website. You have personally derailed more threads, and more websites, than any online virus.

    In all honesty, in doing some research, I think you are Pajama Boys father. There is a striking resemblance, especially around the mouth, and feminine mannerisms

    Do the world a favor. Put a pistol in your mouth.

  26. Roger says:

    Sanity, you haven't found it yet. Keep looking.

    "In all honesty.." I'm still welcome at Navy's site. You're entitled to your opinion of course.
    But at least I'm still not hiding behind a guest log in. Which troll are you anyhow?

  27. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    I do, but it's not just me. Many think I am a legend.

  28. Alinsky Hero USA says:

    At least you don't have to spend

    every day trying to forget your past.

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