Obama Birth Certificate: Confirmed Forgery According To Top Experts

Michael Thomas
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December 15th, 2013
Updated 12/17/2013 at 5:51 am

No attempt to even hide the forgery by those who fabricated the fraudulent document

The birth certificate in question is actually a purported copy of Barack Obama’s original birth certificate which is currently held by Hawaii’s Department of Health. This copy was posted in April of 2011 on the official whitehouse.gov website where it still appears today. The following document is an exact copy of what appears on the website.

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Just in case the facts contained in the subtitle are not entirely clear, the allegations concerning the fraudulent and forged birth certificate have been re-stated by competent experts as follows. The first excerpt is from an article that was recently published on a major alternative news platform.

He said Douglas Vogt, an author and the owner and operator of a scanning business who also has an accounting background, invested over two years in an investigation of the authenticity of document.

Vogt, along with veteran typesetter Paul Ivey, conducted “exhaustive research of the document provided to the White House Press Corps on April 27, 2011 – not the online PDF, a critical distinction that must be understood,” Hagmann said.

“Using their combined experience of 80 years in this realm, they conducted extensive examinations of the ‘copy’ that was used as the basis for the PDF document. They acquired the same type of equipment that was used back in the late 1950s and early 1960s in an attempt to recreate the document presented as an ‘authenticated copy’ proving the legitimacy of Barack Obama. Instead, they found 20 points of forgery on that document and detail each point of forgery in the affidavit,” wrote Hagmann.

“Even more interesting, Mr. Vogt claims to have identified the ‘signature’ of the perpetrator, or the woman who created the forged document, hidden within the document itself. Her identity, in addition to the identity of other conspirators and their precise methods are contained in a sealed document supplementing the public affidavit.”[1]

What follows is a second excerpt from the same article quoting a second graphics expert which is equally as compelling.

More recently, Grace Vuoto of the World Tribune reported that among the experts challenging the birth certificate is certified document analyst Reed Hayes, who has served as an expert for Perkins Coie, the law firm that has been defending Obama in eligibility cases.

“We have obtained an affidavit from a certified document analyzer, Reed Hayes, that states the document is a 100 percent forgery, no doubt about it,” Zullo told the World Tribune.

“Mr. Obama’s operatives cannot discredit [Hayes],” the investigator told the news outlet. “Mr. Hayes has been used as the firm’s reliable expert. The very firm the president is using to defend him on the birth certificate case has used Mr. Hayes in their cases.”

The Tribune reported Hayes agreed to take a look at the documentation and called almost immediately.

“There is something wrong with this,” Hayes said.

Hayes produced a 40-page report in which he says “based on my observations and findings, it is clear that the Certificate of Live Birth I examined is not a scan of an original paper birth certificate, but a digitally manufactured document created by utilizing material from various sources.”

“In over 20 years of examining documentation of various types, I have never seen a document that is so seriously questionable in so many respects. In my opinion, the birth certificate is entirely fabricated,” he says in the report.[1]

These extremely serious and substantive developments in the Cold Case Posse investigation will have extraordinary repercussions for the Obama Administration.  The governmental, political and legal ramifications are so far-reaching that Watergate will pale in comparison.

The relevant filed affidavits give every indication that this nation is about to enter an unprecedented constitutional crisis. Because there are two presidential terms involved, numerous executive orders issued and various treaties signed by this president, a nullified term(s) as president presents various legal and constitutional issues never confronted by the US Federal Government.

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Top investigators make serious allegations about what has been officially labeled a forged, fraudulent birth certificate.

Mike Zullo is the lead investigator in the Cold Case Posse investigation initiated by Phoenix Sheriff Joe Arpaio.  Because of recent developments with the case indicating the likelihood of criminal charges, “sheriff’s investigators now are assisting the Cold Case volunteers”.  Zullo has recently issued the following statements:

“When this information is finally exposed to the public, it will be universe-shattering,” Mike Zullo told WND. “This is beyond the pale of anything you can imagine.”

Zullo explained that because it’s an active investigation that could produce criminal charges, he’s unable to reveal details at the moment.

But the allegations, he said, which go far beyond a fraudulent birth certificate, could be public as early as March.[1]

Zullo goes on the record with the following explosive assertions:

Zullo has testified that the White House computer image of Obama’s birth certificate contains anomalies that are unexplainable unless the document had been fabricated piecemeal by human intervention, rather than being copied from a genuine paper document.

“Mr. Obama has, in fact, not offered any verifiable authoritative document of any legal significance or possessing any evidentiary value as to the origins of his purported birth narrative or location of the birth event,” he explained. “One of our most serious concerns is that the White House document appears to have been fabricated piecemeal on a computer, constructed by drawing together digitized data from several unknown sources.”

Zullo also has noted that the governor of Hawaii was unable to produce an original birth document for Obama, and it should have been easy to find.[1]

The entire Executive Branch will surely receive a tremendous amount of criticism for the part they played in this conspiracy to deceive the American people. Of course, the hundreds of individuals involved in the vetting process of this president will likewise take on their fair share of culpability in what has to be the “political crime of the millennium”. That would include a significant number of those in leadership throughout the Democratic Party to include both Bill and Hillary Clinton.

It is quite difficult to see how the Democratic Party will emerge from their direct involvement with covering up such a serious forgery.  Years of outright collusion in this highly convoluted and complex crime will certainly call into question the integrity of the entire DNC leadership. The many staff attorneys who participated in the vetting process and, therefore, in the coverup will also be subjected to intense legal and ethics scrutiny.

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Why has the leadership of both major political parties failed to proceed with the appropriate congressional investigations in light of so much compelling and irrefutable evidence of numerous crimes having been committed in the filing of the forged birth certificate?

Especially criminal activity so serious and premeditated as filing a completely fake birth certificate which was used as proof of meeting the constitutional requirements of federal election law, as well as the additional statutory requirements of the fifty states.

24 Attorneys General Investigating Obama’s Birth Certificate

When faced with substantial allegations of a felony being committed, law enforcement authorities are obligated to see the investigation through to it end.  They are required by law to determine the merits of the case and then make a criminal referral to the appropriate State Attorney.   Apparently that process is exactly what is being played out throughout the nation regarding Obama’s forged birth certificate.

At least half of the State’s Attorneys across the country have been looking very closely at the Obama birth certificate forgery case for many years now.  Each of them knows that their failure to pursue the legal merits, given the conclusive results of an official investigation, exposes them to charges of official misconduct.  Misprision of felony is just one of the many offenses that each of the involved state officials can be charged with.

Phoenix Sheriff Refers Criminal Investigation Of Obama’s Birth Certificate To State Attorneys

Conclusion:

It is inconceivable that the mainstream media (MSM) has not only avoided this story for over five years; it has gone to extremes to cover up the many “high crimes” involved.  Likewise, never in US history has the entire political establishment been AWOL concerning a matter of such national significance and legal import.  By neglecting to properly investigate these crimes, the nation is now faced with the prospect of a full blown constitutional crisis of epic proportions.

YES … it is that serious and much more!

“Totally unparalleled and unprecedented, with nary a whit of historical precedent” is the way that one commentator described the unfolding constitutional crisis.

Michael Thomas
December 15, 2013

Author’s Note:
The Israel Science and Technology website performed exhaustive analyses and technical assessments on the posted copy of the Long-Form Birth Certificate. Here are the final and categorical conclusions which they published on their web page entitled:
Long-Form Birth Certificate of Obama is a Forged Document

“The analyses presented below reveal without a doubt that the Long-Form Birth Certificate of Mr. Obama is a fabricated, fake and forged document.

The publication of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reins on the most powerful country of the World.

Moreover, the lack of action on the part of the members of the United States House of Representatives and Senate, as well as the courts of the United States, despite many previous appeals to these three branches of American government, also raise a concern about how the governmental institutions of the reputedly best, and certainly the most important democracy in the Free World have avoided this issue.”

Endnotes:

[1]‘Universe-shattering’ twist in Obama birth probe by Bob Unruh

References:

Long-Form Birth Certificate of Obama is a Forged Document

President Barack Obama Posted A Fraudulent Birth Certificate On The White House Blog 

Forensic findings on Obama’s birth certificate: ‘A 100 percent forgery, no doubt about it’

Articles: New Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Proof in the Layers

Mike Zullo on The 100% Forged Obama Birth Certificate

Arpaio: Obama birth record definitely forged

Why Sheriff Joe Arpaio insists Obama birth certificate a fake

Ariz. sheriff says Obama birth certificate is fake

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Michael Thomas is a contributing writer to Storyleak and Editor of the State of the Nation website, where he offers analysis on geopolitical events.

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  1. Bruce Anderson says:

    Gotta love this quote:

    "Many months later there is mounting, conclusive evidence and expert testimony pointing directly to the fact that a fraudulent birth certificate copy has been posted by the President at the official White House website.
    Where is the National Press Corp?
    Where is the WashPo, NYT, WSJ, and USA Today?
    Based on black and white evidence published on a government website, a sitting president has given every appearance that federal laws have been broken, perhaps a number of felony crimes committed. In short the public trust and social contract have been violated in a quite profound and fundamental way.
    And, yet, the fourth estate (except the truly alternative media) is AWOL?
    The mainstream media is out to lunch?
    As for all the major networks like CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and FOX – our national watchdogs – there’s simply nobody home?"
    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=8
    .

    • Joe says:

      Once those networks had acted for years as cheerleaders and protectors of all things Obama, there is no way they are going to “out’ themselves as the sorry excuse for journalist they are by suddenly looking for and revealing the truth about the usurper.

      Fox acts as “controlled opposition”, discussing negatives they are allowed to discuss, but never touching in a meaningful way the only issue that matters and can save America, the complete exposure of the usurpation of the presidency and the many involved in the biggest fraud/hoax in history.

    • smrstrauss says:

      It's not forged. See above, and see:
      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-sh

      • Publius says:

        Birtherism is total quack bullshit. This has been proven again and again and again, and the evidence is out there for anyone with half a brain to read and evaluate for themselves. The documentation of this is so extensive, it’s about as well documented as any fact on earth. Obamaconspiracy.org is a good place to start.

        Anyone should be embarrassed to be associated with this bullshit.

  2. richard s says:

    "Many courageous individuals proficient in those disciplines which are required for an in-depth technical analysis of the concerned long-form birth certificate copy have stepped forward with their evaluation reports. Most of these experts have decades of applicable experience, technical expertise and working knowledge which qualify them to make authoritative assessments. All of them have written that the LFBC, which still appears today at The White House Blog, is either a forgery, a fake, an altered document, a manipulated form or a fraudulent birth certificate. All of them have stated, categorically, that this officially posted birth certificate cannot be a copy of the authentic Long Form Birth Certificate which would have been originally issued by the State of Hawaii in the year of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth."

    Where the heck is everybody?!
    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=691

  3. Kelly J. says:

    WOW ! ! !

    What blockbuster of a story — when this blows it's gonna blow big.

    • Bob68 says:

      For those who wonder why Congress does nothing….this is I believe, clearly the reason:

      Congress, both parties, are complicit in getting an ineligible, identity fraud con-artist elected as the putative president. That was, and is, treason. After 5 years of Congressional leadership directing members of Congress to obfuscate, lie and/or ignore the biggest fraud/hoax in history, there is no way Congress will ever do anything which could reveal the complete truth about Obama, that includes impeachment, or even a real investigation. Congress now protects Obama to protect themselves from changes of, and the penalties associated with, treason.

      Congress knows Obama is a usurper, and yet they allowed and assisted in putting the usurper in office. Now they will do anything to cover their complicity. This allows Obama and his regime to do whatever they please without fear.

      • Roger says:

        When truth no longer matters and a society thinks it can live a pretense then we're doomed. History is full of civilizations that thought they could do so.

      • Njoroge says:

        Whatever they please? The Obama regime has been remarkably unable to get anything done…

        • bob68 says:

          Obamacare was done with massive lies, arm twisting and bribery, but it was done. The "Arab Spring" was done and is turning the entire Middle East into a haven for al Qaeda. The U.S. military has been purged of over 200 officers the regime thinks might not go along with acting against American citizens. The military has been weakened by open homosexuality, women in combat and stupid rules of engagement. Elections have been stolen by massive election fraud, and intimidation by the IRS….and nothing has changed which will make the next election free of the same kind of fraud and intimidation. Two far-left SCOTUS appointees have been appointed and can be around for 30 plus years spreading their Marxist agenda. The welfare state has been hugely expanded and the America Spirit crushed. The national debt has grown at a record rate to over 17 trillion. Then there is Benghazi, Fast and Furious and a rapidly growing number of other scandals for which no one is held accountable. Congress has observed all of this and much more and done little to nothing to stop any of it…..why, because they are complicit in the biggest fraud/hoax in history, both parties and consequently cannot do anything that would reveal the complete truth about Obama and cause that truth to be acted upon without the risk of fully outing their complicity, and the charges against them that go with their actions.

  4. David G says:

    OK, here is where WE The People come in on this: In order for this to go anywhere, a Grand Jury must be summoned by a federal judge to investigate these allegations, which are found within the affidavit filed by Douglas Vogt to give notice that the crimes of Treason and serious felonies have been committed, persuant to USC pertaining to misprision of treason and felony. Somewhere in these United states one must be found who will carry out his or her sworn duty to summon the Grand Jury upon receipt of the affidavit. It will only take one. The findings of the Grand Jury can turn this into a trial, with subpoenas and all the rest. A trial is definitely NOT where this administration wants to go with this, so you know from the git-go it won’t be easy to do this. Get yourselves up to speed on the developments by visiting here: http://www.obamaforgerybook.com

    download the documents, especially the affidavit which has been filed in federal court. Read them, then read them again until you are fully conversant.

    Contributions of “leg work” and money will be necessary to keep this moving. This commentator is only spreading the word and is otherwise not affiliated with the website specified or its owner any any way.

    • Tobias Funke says:

      Or read http://www.obamaconspiracy.org and realize that birtherism is just another ridiculous conspiracy theory.

      • Bob says:

        Why do so many people believe Obama was born in Kenya? Perhaps it is because all these worldwide sources say that is the case?

        http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/WhatToBeliev

        The Israel Science and Technology website, ran by the former science adviser for Benjamin Netanyahu, did their own test of Obama’s BC….and concluded, baaad forgery:

        http://www.science.co.il/Obama-Birth-Certificate….

        • smrstrauss says:

          Re: "Why do so many people believe Obama was born in Kenya? Perhaps it is because all these worldwide sources say that is the case?"

          Answer: When both the Kenyan government and the Hawaii government (officials of BOTH parties including the former Republican governor, a friend of Sarah Palin's) say that Obama was not born in Kenya, and when there isn't even evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961, and when EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in 1961 due to the risk of stillbirth, and when WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama's father stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961—then the chance of Obama having been born in Kenya is extremely low.

          MOREOVER: Here is the complete Immigration and Nationalization Services (INS) report for fiscal 1961:
          http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim1962uni

          Scroll down to page 74, about two-thirds of the way down in the book, and you will find the Kenya arrivals listing—there were only 21 arrivals.

          On page 77, the same report shows the number of people who WENT to Kenya in fiscal 1961, and that shows that only 63 did (of whom 60 were Americans), and that of the 63 not a single person, not one, went by air. They ALL went by ship.

          So, according to birther theory, Obama’s mother, in the last two months of pregnancy at the age of 18, was among the 60 Americans who went to Kenya by sea in fiscal 1961 and one of the seven Americans who came to the USA from Kenya in fiscal 1961, and again she traveled by sea (since NO Americans came to the USA from Kenya by air).

          And, there were NO normally scheduled direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961.

  5. Nice summary of this latest info, Michael.

    Please keep on this issue. It needs to get Out There. Don’t let the Usurper and his various comrades win the day on this thing. The fate of the American constitutional Republic hangs on the outcome of this sorry story. Truth MUST be served. Or we will suffer the torture of regret that we were ‘there,’ and did not fight hard enough to keep the dark night from swallowing up said Republic, and turn it, and the world, over to the unholy statists who have been and are rubbing their hands, hopefully prematurely.

    The Fat Lady hasn’t sung yet. But she has been warming up her vocal cords.

  6. Congress now protects Obama to protect themselves from changes of

    nice post . thanks

  7. Fuzz T. Was says:

    In the history of the United States 44 men have been president. Of these, 34 were born after
    1787 and subject to the “natural-born Citizen” requirement. With two exceptions, these 34 presidents
    were born in the U.S. of parents who were both U.S. citizens. The exceptions were Barack H. Obama and
    Chester A. Arthur. President Obama’s situation is well known. President Arthur’s situation is less so.

    Attorney Leo Donofrio researched the matter and discovered that President Arthur was not a natural-born citizen and hid that fact from the nation. Arthur was born in Vermont in 1829. His mother, Malvina Stone, was also born in Vermont. His father, William Arthur, an anti-slavery Baptist clergyman, was born in Ireland in 1796, immigrated to Canada about 1819 and finally the United States about 1821. He became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1843, 14 years after the birth of Chester Arthur. This made President Arthur both a U.S. and British citizen at birth.

    In 1880, while running for Vice-President with President James A. Garfield, Arthur P. Hinman made a charge that Chester Arthur was ineligible to be Vice-President because in was born in Ireland or Canada. The charge was discredited but Hinman went on to write a book called, “How a British Subject Became President of the United States” Arthur was not a natural-born citizen, but not for the reason claimed by Hinman. He was ineligible because his father was a British Subject at the time of his birth. Arthur, a lawyer, repeatedly gave false and misleading statements to the Brooklyn Eagle newspaper concerning his father’s heritage, immigration status and age. Later, Arthur burned most of his family documents. He even lied about his own age. He claimed to have been born in 1830, the date recorded on his gravestone. His attempts to conceal his father’s history suggest he was aware of his ineligibility, per Article 2, Section 1 and the Law of Nations, to be President or Vice-President.

    • smrstrauss says:

      The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law, not from Vattel—who is not even mentioned once in the Federalist Papers, while the common law is mentioned about twenty times, and always with praise. And every child born on US soil except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born US Citizen.

      "Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”—Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

      “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      Obama has never concealed his father's nationality. He stated that this father was born in Kenya in his book, published way back in July 1995, and Obama published his short-form birth certificate, that shows that his father was from Kenya, in June 2008—about five months before the election of that year.

  8. Santa says:

    I have no doubt, none, that the document is forged. I do doubt that anything will ever come of it. It won't make a bit of difference as to just how convincing be the evidence or the experts' opinions. Won't make any difference how loud you/me/we squeal and squawk. Nothing is going to be allowed to settle the storm that is coming. The major media, the Democrats (of course), and the GOP too, will not, will NEVER, go along with any manner of an opinion other than the status quo.

    We have come quite close to the point of no return; the point where no manner of resistance will stop the coming nightmare. The coming mid-terms will tell the story. No miracle = no reprieve.

  9. TPC says:

    Don’t confuse being a citizen and a “natural born citizen.”

    The Constitution disqualifies from eligibility to serve as president, those not a “natural born citizen” born in the nation to citizen parents (plural), pursuant to Article 2, Section 1, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible … .” Exempting a “citizen” from being a “natural born citizen” is self evident proof the terms aren’t equal, as crafted on the advice of John Jay, to exclude foreign allegiance.

    “Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” — John Jay, as written to George Washington at Constitutional Convention, July 25, 1787.

    law enforcement investigators released evidence proving Obama’s birth certificate is fraudulent.
    http://youtu.be/002oG9lOtnQ

    • smrstrauss says:

      John Jay was an expert in THE COMMON LAW. If he was using the term Natural Born Citizen any differently than the meaning of Natural Born in the common law, HE WOULD HAVE SAID SO—and he didn't.

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

  10. Metoo says:

    As a Graphics Pro for over 25 years. I downloaded the pdf version from the WH. It is a layered fake. And I Voted for the Chump twice.

    • smrstrauss says:

      Re "layered fake."

      Layers are NORMAL in pdf. That is how it works.

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      • MAD JEWESS says:

        There are NO layers in my uploaded Birth cert–NONE.
        Nice Try but another fail, Strauss

        • smrstrauss says:

          Did you scan that birth certificate on a Xerox Workcentre, then put it into pdf and open the pdf in Adobe Illustrator? You have to do all of those things to replicate what was done in making the Web image of Obama's long form birth certificate.
          http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-sh

          Moreover the National Review (a conservative publication) showed that when you scan most birth certificates (even without the Xerox Workcentre) and you open the image in Adobe Illustrator–there are LAYERS. That is because, of course, pdf works with layers—and the more complex the document, the more layers.

          Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

          (If you continue to maintain your position that there were NO layers, you are trying to convince people that the National Review is lying, and not you.)

          Moreover, the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent the short form and long form BCs to Obama and that ALL the facts on them are exactly the same, repeat EXACTLY the same, as on what they sent to him. So, if you continue to maintain that Obama's birth certificate is forged, you have to make people believe that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying, or that Obama forged a birth certificate in which all the facts are EXACTLY the same as what they sent to him—and who would do that, and why?

          Instead, rational people will realize that the claim that Obama's birth certificate is forged is simply another birther lie.

          They will realize from the many birther lies in the past—–and the three FORGED "Kenyan birth certificates" and the forged videos and the forged "Columbia University Student ID" (which claims to show that Obama was a foreign student, whereas Columbia has NEVER put "foreign student" on its student IDs—and you can call the university's PR department to check—that the claim that Obama's birth certificate is forged has behind it the same motives as caused birther sites to make all the other lies. Some of them are:

          (1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama—so who do you think forged it? (Okay, I'll make it easy—the guy who posted it.)

          (2) Birthers have said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia—but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?

          (3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—but the transcript of the call shows that she said the he was BORN IN HAWAII—why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?

          (4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

          (5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?

          • smrstrauss says:

            More birther lies:

            (6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961—or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

            (7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"—but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they posted those videos? Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates."

            (8) Birther sites said that Obama spent “millions” on hiding his birth certificate. But Obama showed his birth certificate and did not spend a cent on hiding anything. And in fact, as birther sites did not tell their readers, there wasn’t even one lawsuit for Obama’s birth certificate or for records, not one. There were lawsuits to keep Obama off of ballots, but NO lawsuits for his birth certificate or records of any kind. Why do you suppose that birther sites implied that there were lawsuits for Obama's BC—when there weren't ANY???

            (9) Birther sites said that Obama’s records are “sealed,” but they are not sealed. They are covered under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not release similar records either.

      • WankerKevin says:

        That quote was back in 2011. In any event, the truth will come out some time. All of the truth and it will be very, very ugly. Not quite the ‘savior’ some people thought he would be. ‘Subversive’ might be a better description.

        • smrstrauss says:

          The truth IS out.

          Obama has shown both his Hawaii short-form BC (the Certification of Live Birth, COLB, which is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their US passports every year), and he has shown his long form Hawaii BC. And the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him, and that all the facts, repeat ALL the facts are exactly the same, repeat, EXACTLY the same, as what they sent to him. And Obama's birth in Hawaii in 1961 is also confirmed by the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii (and ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers, the "Health Bureau Statistics" section, where Obama's birth notice was published, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).

          All nine points that I have shown in the posting above your comment are really birther LIES, and the Hawaii BC and the confirmations of the officials in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices are really the truth. And, guess what, birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother even had a passport in 1961—-and at the time very very few 18-year-olds had passports, and even fewer women traveled abroad late in pregnancy due to the risk of stillbirth, yet birthers try to convince gullible people that Obama's mother had a passport and took that highly unusual trip and was able to get Obama to Hawaii without a travel document for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US embassy or consulate, and no such document has been found). And in addition to all three of those unlikely things having happened, they hope that GULLIBLE people will believe that Obama's birth certificate is forged and that the officials in Hawaii of both parties are lying about it.

          GULLIBLE.

  11. I read recently that the one historical error that is glaring evidence of a forgery is the name of the birth site itself:the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. In 1961- the supposed year BHO was born there, it was called something else– like the Kapiolani Maternity Center. The name listed in that box didn’t occur until years later!

    • smrstrauss says:

      What you read was wrong. The Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital did exist and was called The Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.

      How do we know for sure? Because there are two birth certificates on WND's site for the Nordyke Twins, and they were born in the same hospital as Obama one day after Obama. And what was the name of the hospital on their birth certificates? Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.

      http://www.wnd.com/2009/07/105347/

    • smrstrauss says:

      Re "I read recently"

      What you read was wrong. The name of the hospital was Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital at the time, just as it was on Obama's birth certificate. How do we know for sure? Because there are two birth certificates for the Nordyke Twins, born one day after Obama at the same hospital that he was, on WND's Web site, and what was the name of the hospital on their birth certificates? Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.

  12. It is about time some action is taken against this defunct leader. I pray that it is successful in removing him from the office as leader of this country!

  13. smrstrauss1 says:

    Only birther “experts” have called Oama’s birth certificate forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

    One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

    Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

    And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

    Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

    Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

    John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

    Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

    Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

    Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

    And it is irrational (to say the least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.

    (Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)

    • tiredofdeceit says:

      Why is it the same examples of "proof" you show for support of authenticity, are discredited if they are against your belief? (i.e Dr. Krewitz, same formats, just different name and stance) so we are to believe everyone else is wrong and you are right? Yes you have sources just like sources against, what makes you the absolute expert? The investigation should reveal if its so, with the outcomes being what they be. (without outside manipulation i.e hush money)

      • smrstrauss says:

        Birthers have not even tried to answer the results of the Xerox WorkCentre research:
        http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-sh

        And they haven't told their readers (I wonder why not???) that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that all the facts, repeat ALL the facts, on Obama's published birth certificate, are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.

    • EDoug says:

      This page is acting up, must be some "funny" business going on.

      Here is a rebuttal from Douglas Vogt on Tremblay's accusations (since we all seem to be cut-and-pasting):

      MR. VOGT: On page 13, I wrote a rebuttal to discovery of the multi-layers found in the PDF. You’ll see in the last paragraph what my qualifications are for OCR. This guy knows nothing; he plainly does not know anything about it. You know something? Considering he wound up defending it on the 29th, the day after somebody found the layers, he would be my first suspect. If you looked at his qualifications, certified on a bunch of Adobe’s products, I would say he would be the first candidate I’d have for the one who put the thing together.

      Somebody looked it up and said he was a supporter of Obama. Also, if they found a graphic artist who was sympathetic and was not from the country, there is less chance of his being subpoenaed to give testimony to Congress. They’re actually wrong about the investigation part; the reason is that there is a security treaty between the United States and Canada concerning national security, which this definitely does, and that means that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police will be investigating this guy to find out. He can be extradited to the United States to testify. He is not exempt from prosecution.

      from: http://usurpador.blogcindario.com/2011/06/01164-d

  14. are complicit in getting an ineligible, identity fraud con-artist elected as the putative president

  15. smrstrauss says:

    Only birther “experts” have called Obama’s birth certificate forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

    One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

    Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

    And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

    Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

    Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

    John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

    Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

    Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

    Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

    And it is irrational (to say the very least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.

    Also, the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.

  16. smrstrauss says:

    Only birther “experts” have called Obama’s birth certificate forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

    One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

    Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

    And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

    Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

    Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

    John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

    Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

    Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

    Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

    And it is irrational (to say the very least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.

    Also, the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.

    • CONCERNED CITIZEN says:

      His father is a BRITISH NATIONAL…subject to the
      QUEEN OF ENGLAND…. SO BY BRITISH LAW THAT MAKES HIM A BRITISH NATIONAL AS WELL UPON BIRTH, no mater where he was born. End of Story

      • smrstrauss says:

        Re: “His father is a BRITISH NATIONAL…subject to the
        QUEEN OF ENGLAND…. SO BY BRITISH LAW THAT MAKES HIM A BRITISH NATIONAL AS WELL UPON BIRTH, no mater where he was born…”

        That makes him a dual national of the USA and Britain when he was born. What gave you the idea that dual nationals are not Natural Born US Citizens???

        In fact both Woodrow Wilson and Dwight D. Eisenhower were dual nationals at birth. Wilson was born a subject of Britain under British law (just as Obama was), and Eisenhower was considered by GERMANY to be a citizen of Germany because of old German laws that made the grandchildren of its citizens citizens of Germany at birth.

        Neither affected the Natural Born Citizen status of those presidents—nor should it. If foreign laws could affect the eligibility of US presidents, foreign countries would pass laws in order to make people whom they do not like not eligible.

        More importantly, there is no mention in the common law, from which the term Natural Born comes, that dual citizenship affects Natural Born status. It simply holds that ALL children born in the country except for the children of foreign diplomats are Natural Born.

        And we know that the term comes from the common law, not from Vattel, who was not even mentioned once in the Federalist Papers. In fact, John Jay, who first use the term Natural Born Citizen in the USA in his letter to George Washington, was an expert in the common law. If he had intended to use the term Natural Born any differently than in the common law, he would have said so, and he didn’t.

  17. smrstrauss says:

    Re: "Why do so many people believe Obama was born in Kenya? Perhaps it is because all these worldwide sources say that is the case?"

    The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

    Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof. (Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

    Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

    And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

    “Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

    “It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
    http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

    Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

    Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

    Oh, and there is this:
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol

    • CONCERNED CITIZEN says:

      Please stop trying to lead this discussion off track. The issue is THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS FAKE period. start another blog about where he was born in Kenya…that does not belong in the conversation.

      • smrstrauss says:

        Actually, if Obama's birth certificate were fake, and it isn't, that would not affect his Natural Born Citizen status either. He would have to have been born in a foreign country and both of his parents not be US citizens for him not to be a Natural Born US Citizen. And Obama really was born in the USA, in Hawaii, as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii shows, and his mother was a US citizen, born in Kansas in fact.

        Equally importantly, his birth certificate is not forged. Birthers simply lie and claim that it is repeatedly. And they have not shown all the real experts who say it is not forged, and they have not even attempted to answer this.
        http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-sh

        • Vic says:

          Why do you keep showing up on these stories about Obama's bc with the same old tired arguments? Argues the points in the article, not some drivell that you probably didn't even organize? Who do you work for? That's what I want to know.

          You were all over the Douglas Vogt article this weekend with nothing to argue the points in the article, but spent all day there diverting from the article. EDisgusting.

          • smrstrauss says:

            Rational people will notice that Vic has not responded to the FACTS stated above. There is no proof that Obama's birth certificate is forged, and the claims of Doug Vogt (who also claims that he found "the original Altar of Abraham" but has never shown it) do not change that fact. Birthers simply have found nuts and zealots who are willing to lie and claim that Obama's birth certificate is forged. That is like their many many many other lies.

            Here are some classic birther lies:

            (1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama—so who do you think forged it? (Okay, I'll make it easy—the guy who posted it.)

            (2) Birthers have said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia—but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?

            (3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—but the transcript of the call shows that she said the he was BORN IN HAWAII—why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?

            (4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

            (5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?

            (6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961—or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

            (7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"—but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they posted those videos? Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates."

            In short, birthers have shown that they are willing to forge "Kenyan birth certificates" and videos in which Obama is alleged to have said he was born in Kenya, and they lied about what Obama's Kenyan grandmother said. So why believe their claims about Obama's birth certificate being forged either—especially the claims of a guy who insists that he found "The original Altar of Abraham."
            http://www.vectorpub.com/Reality_Revealed.html

          • Seeks_the_truth says:

            You got the standard "Rational people…." bull from the irrational smrstrauss (ellen) that she likes to post when she loses the discussion.
            Good job!!

          • smrstrauss says:

            People will notice that Seeks_the_truth has not responded to the facts either.

          • Seeks_The_Truth says:

            People, rational ones especially, are the ones telling smrstrauss they are waiting for them to post FACTS.
            Rational people accept the facts and evidence that the birth certificate presented as that of barrack obama is a fake as is all other documents presented.

          • ellen says:

            So Seeks_the_truth keeps saying. But there is no evidence that Obama's birth certificate is fake. There are only the claims of birther "experts"—who have the same motives as caused these other birther lies:

            (1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama—so who do you think forged it? (Okay, I'll make it easy—the guy who posted it.)

            (2) Birthers have said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia—but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?

            (3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—but the transcript of the call shows that she said the he was BORN IN HAWAII—why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?

            (4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

            (5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?

            (6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961—or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

            (7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"—but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they posted those videos? Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates."

            (8) Birther sites said that Obama spent “millions” on hiding his birth certificate. But Obama showed his birth certificate and did not spend a cent on hiding anything. And in fact, as birther sites did not tell their readers, there wasn’t even one lawsuit for Obama’s birth certificate or for records, not one. There were lawsuits to keep Obama off of ballots, but NO lawsuits for his birth certificate or records of any kind. Why do you suppose that birther sites implied that there were lawsuits for Obama's BC—when there weren't ANY???

            (9) Birther sites said that Obama’s records are “sealed,” but they are not sealed. They are covered under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not release similar records either.

  18. Joe S says:

    Men have no "right" to make laws contrary to laws God gave: starting with law to Adam; word means "to blush" to show blood through pale skin" – Strong's Concordance and others. To "adam" (trans."man" often in English Genesis).. to this "man" in Gen 1:26-28 the order was given: to be fruitful and multiply. To subdue all Earth and to have dominion over various named creatures and ALL LIVING ("chay") moving over the earth/ground…clearly includiing preAdamic humans!

    Deduce the creation of Adam a bit before 4000 AD using standard Bible Genesis chronology. [The Greek Septuagint gives ca 5450 BC.] So Adam was created about 4000 or 5450 BC. Paleontologists have early human bones in east-central Africa. What is the first true "human" is hotly debated, depending on your definition of a "species." In any event these are all long before Adam – the first of his kind, (last human type, in image of God, Gen 5:1-2) given dominion over the rest!

    Obama has no right to rule us, he is not the right type to be Pres or be over us in any way. Wake up!

    • smrstrauss says:

      Nobody has the right to rule us. Obama has the right to be president because he was elected president in November 2012, with nearly five million more votes than Mitt Romney received by the way. And, by the way, Obama is a Natural Born US Citizen (having been born in Hawaii. as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices all show) and every child born on US soil is a Natural Born US Citizen.

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      Having been (1) eligible and (2) elected, and (3) confirmed by the US Congress, and (4) sworn in by the chief justice of the USA (several times), Obama has the ability to exercise the powers granted to him by the US Constitution—but no more than that. If he takes more power than was granted, the US Congress has the right to impeach him. But, guess what, there has not even been committee meetings in the Congress on the subject of impeachment.

  19. Mad Citizen says:

    I think the reason no has arrested anyone about the President's birth document is because it's only a matter of record. Mistakes made on vital records can be amended to new records and attached to the old ones. Also if someone willingly falsified a document that's a different story. Question begs, why is Congress scared to resolve it quickly? I commend Sheriff Arpio and his Cold case posse team for taking the actions to close this problem. More people need to get behind them.

    • smrstrauss says:

      Re: ” I commend Sheriff Arpio and his Cold case posse team…”

      Re Sheriff Joe, Zullo and the Cold Case Posse:

      http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors

      Congress is not scared. Obama really was born in Hawaii as showed by (1) his birth certificate (short form and long form) and (2) the repeated confirmations of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii that they sent them to him and that all the facts on the copy the White House put online are exactly the same as on what they sent to him. And as further confirmed by (3) the public Index Data file and (4) the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii back in 1961 (and ONLY the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the papers, and it only did so for births in Hawaii).

  20. Julie Burns says:

    Ok! What can we do about it? Congress won't do anything, where do we go, who do we turn to? The people who we hired to take care of our country is destroying it!!

  21. I miss the days before the Internet, when all the tinfoil wearing asshats didn't have a place to publicly congregate.

    • ramassist says:

      when one questions the intentions and honesty of others it does not mean their hats are foil. It means simply they do not trust those that are in a position to push an agenda.

      Someone showing up at my home to sell me insurance, steaks, or a home security system deserve the same suspicion as any fast-talking smooth operator con men, of any political belief.

      How many people have been swindled out of their life savings because they were too trusting of the 'good nature' of others? Would their hats be foil just because they did not trust the person trying to separate them from their money.

      It's not conspiracy to question everything, it's just good ole fashion common sense.

      Obama's case could be closed simply by convening a group of experts from both sides of the political isle. presenting the facts and looking at the evidence and making a determination in a court of law. The trouble is that fellow Democrats would put on their foil hats when the results concluded that he was a fraud, they would refuse to believe it and label it a conspiracy against him.

  22. Christopher says:

    The whole government is crooked. The president is just a patsy anyway & has no real power as the banks control the country. It may be fake, i don't know. Either way he is a lying ass! Unless we get term limits in congress (never vote to re-elect anyone) nothing will change. The "state of the union address" is a joke & lies so why listen to it?

  23. James says:

    Whether or not Obama was born in the US or not, does it really make a difference? I mean honestly, how will this, in any logical way, negatively affect the US? "Oh, a great storm is coming! The US is doomed!" XD Oh give me a break! Have you even watched the news lately? China, Russia, and Iran, THESE are the countries we should be worried about, because believe it or not, everyone else in the world agrees their governments are up the wall insane. The only people who don't believe that are people living in China, Russia, Iran, racists, overly optimistic people, pacifists that are afraid of even saying "war", some people living in these countries, some of the few allies to these countries (all of which can probably be counted on one hand right now) and the governments of these nations themselves. That said, they don't have a lot of credible support.

    Obama is not the anti-Christ, he's not an alien, and there is no Illuminati. If any of these 3 things are true, then Obama is doing a terrible job as the anti-Christ, aliens are even less intelligent than we are, and the Illuminati is doing a horrid job of secretly controlling the world. I'll tell you what "storm" is coming; WW3, with China, Russia, and likely Iran on one side, and everyone else on the other. America's floundering economy will be pushed further over the brink and a new world power will step up, someone capable of providing the "allied" forces with guns and bullets, and is able to either put up a good fight militarily, or at least provide back up at the last second (what America essentially did in WW1 and WW2).

    If Obama isn't American it isn't the end of the world people. This is the same garbage over and over again that happens with every President you people get, and frankly the rest of the world is sick of the soap opera. Now if a Republican gets voted in, that's when we start to worry. None of us are exactly looking forward to a global economic collapse, and cutting down on the amount of money you have to pay off debt *cough* tax cuts for rich *cough* is not going to help that. Also, it probably won't be good to have another war started either.

    One last thing, I don't blame Obama for faking his identity if he really wasn't born in America, he's America's first black president and I highly doubt he wants to be the last. And I'm sorry, but no amount of shouting "Benghazi!" and "Drones!" is going to make him look any more involved in a conspiracy.

    • ramassist says:

      try Agenda 21 and his initiating that protocol in collusion with the UN. The end result which leads only to the dissolution of the US Constitution in favor of UN policies world-wide. No theory, but Fact!!!!

  24. sam johnson says:

    If people will read “Protocols of the learned elders of Zion” things will become a little more clear to them why these things are happening. Other very important books to read are “creature from jekyll island”, “synagogue of satan” and “conspiracy of the six pointed star”. There are a lot of other books available to read also. These books are extremely important to read. People really need to start doing their homework. It’s almost to late!!!

  25. It is inconceivable that the mainstream media (MSM) has not only avoided this story for over five years,it has gone to extremes to cover up the many “high crimes” involved. Likewise, never in US history has the entire political establishment been AWOL concerning a matter of such national significance and legal import. By neglecting to properly investigate these crimes, the nation is now faced with the prospect of a full blown constitutional crisis of epic proportions.

    • smrstrauss says:

      The reason that the MSN has not investigated either the "born in Kenya" story or the "his birth certificate was forged" story is that they are both nutty—and the latter, the forgery claim, is based on the lies of people who hate Obama and are willing to claim that they are "experts" and that the birth certificate is forged in order to hurt him. That is all.

      Obama has shown both his Hawaii short-form BC (the Certification of Live Birth, COLB, which is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their US passports every year), and he has shown his long form Hawaii BC. And the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him, and that all the facts, repeat ALL the facts are exactly the same, repeat, EXACTLY the same, as what they sent to him. And Obama's birth in Hawaii in 1961 is also confirmed by the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii (and ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers, the "Health Bureau Statistics" section, where Obama's birth notice was published, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).

      Some examples of classic birther lies:

      (1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama—so who do you think forged it? (Okay, I'll make it easy—the guy who posted it.)

      (2) Birthers have said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia—but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?

      (3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—but the transcript of the call shows that she said that he was BORN IN HAWAII—why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?

      • smrstrauss says:

        More examples:

        (4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

        (5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?

        (6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961—or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

        (7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"—but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they forged and posted those videos? (Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates." And what do you suppose was the motive for forging them??)

        (8) Birther sites said that Obama spent “millions” on hiding his birth certificate. But Obama showed his birth certificate and did not spend a cent on hiding anything. And in fact, as birther sites did not tell their readers, there wasn’t even one lawsuit for Obama’s birth certificate or for records, not one. There were lawsuits to keep Obama off of ballots, but NO lawsuits for his birth certificate or records of any kind. Why do you suppose that birther sites implied that there were lawsuits for Obama's BC—when there weren't ANY???

        (9) Birther sites said that Obama’s records are “sealed,” but they are not sealed. They are covered under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not release similar records either. In fact, no president or presidential candidate has released his school or college transcripts (a few showed grade point averages). Bush’s transcript, BTW, was leaked by Yale, but Bush did not release it. And Clinton and Reagan and Carter and Ford and Nixon and LBJ, etc., etc.—-did not show their school or college records either.

        And (10) the constant repetition ‘the birth certificates are forged,” and “anyone can see that the birth certificates are forged”—are all birther lies too. And they have the same motives as the lies shown above.

        Birthers have not shown all the real experts who have said that there is nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, nor have they told the readers on birther sites that the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the birth certificates to Obama and confirmed ALL the facts on the copy that the White House put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him. And they have not explained the research on the Xerox Workstation either:
        http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-sh

        In short, it is just another birther LIE.

  26. DNA says:

    Never go full retard.

  27. Believer! says:

    I like the part where Obama goes back in time to 1961 and puts his birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper. The perfect plan.

  28. Kurt says:

    The only thing that makes any of this significant is that Obama is lying. Can any person on earth produce any EVIDENCE that ANY law applies to ANYone? We've been asking bureaucrats for evidence for a few years now and none has produced a thing. They just use circular nonsense such as, "the law applies because it's the law!" See anything wrong with that logic? The truth is: the law applies because we can muster a lot more men with guns to bear on your ass than you can muster against our asses! That is the undisputed truth. If you can produce ACTUAL EVIDENCE ANY LAW APPLIES TO ME, please be sure and comment. Or call into Marc Steven's show: http://www.marcstevens.net , Saturdays 4PM-7PM EST (218) 632-9399.

  29. fredesmite says:

    Our Glorious Leader's mother was born in America,and is a citizen. Period.

    Makes all this noise irrelevant . –

    Get over it – You lost. TWICE. The last time to a Mexican born polygamist.

  30. fredesmite says:

    Our Glorious Leader's mother was born in America,and is a citizen. Period.

  31. jack says:

    when the president runs, he’s gonna fall right off the edge

  32. mark daniel says:

    They are all family. Bush, obama all the way down to englands queen. These are the leaders chosen to punish nations as in the bible.they set it all up from the beginning . Why do you all think when the world was at war all the country's fighter one another sent their gold to the us. Becaus its all deception, look we werent allies nope . But the people behind the scenes gathered more elements and rare rae materials ,oil ,water, copper,etc. And they ship it to us. While sweden funds all sides. What purpose. World domination and the destruction of useless eaters. Wake up folks savage has been right there its all bloodlines. Illuminati

  33. Robert says:

    Everyone knows it a fake in 1961 the race of the farther would have been colored the term African did not come out until the 1980 and the mothers race would have been white not Caucasian

  34. smrstrausss says:

    Re: “the race of the father.”

    Answer: In Hawaii you were allowed to enter any word that you wanted to describe your race, and the word that African exchange students used in the 1960s was usually “African.”

  35. smrstrauss says:

    Here are some facts that confirm the Hawaii birth certificate showing that Obama was born in Hawaii:

    Here is a link to some (by no means all) of the confirmations, including two legal statements by the officials in Hawaii, both saying that all the facts on Obama's long form birth certificate match what they sent to him:
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-

    Here is the long form birth certificate in the photographs taken by the NBC reporter Savannah Guterie, and which she stated she had felt the seal on:
    http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&amp

    Here is the second of the confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm

    Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and
    that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed twice.

    And here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0

    Here is the statement of a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://

    Here are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961.
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabi

    (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

    Here is the Index Data file:
    http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04

    Hawaii is THOUSANDS of miles away from the nearest foreign country and women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days. Oh, and by the way, Kaiploani Hospital is confirming that Obama was born there (want to see the two citations of that?) and Obama's Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii (want to see the transcript for that?)

  36. Greg Rysewyk says:

    WHY IS WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE . HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF OFFICE . HE IS NOT AN AMERICA, HE SHOULDN'T BE IN POWER.HE SHOULD BE IN PRISON

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