India Deploying Massive Force to Chinese Border

Daniel G. J.
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August 27th, 2013
Updated 08/27/2013 at 11:54 am

Asia’s naval arms race is heating up again; India has joined Japan and China by launching an aircraft carrier to aid its mass of troops and weaponry along the border with China and Pakistan.

india-military-china-borderChina and Japan have both launched carriers, and China has started work on its first large aircraft carrier. Now India has launched its own carrier, called the Vikrant. The Vikrant is the first aircraft carrier built in India, and its launch prompted at least one Chinese newspaper to demand the construction of more carriers in China.

India Deploying Massive Force to Chinese Border

The carrier race is only the latest escalation in the potential conflict between Asian powers. India recently approved the deployment of 50,000 soldiers to its border with China and Pakistan in Kashmir. The troops are combat forces equipped with such state of the art equipment as CJ-130J Hercules transport planes that could carry an invasion force into Chinese territory.

The conflict between China and India is potentially dangerous because China has occupied 38,000 square miles of Indian territory in the Himalayas since the 1960s. China and India actually fought a war back then that ended in a humiliating defeat for India. The Chinese claim that India is occupying part of their territory in Arunchal Pradesh. That’s not true; Arunchal Pradesh was occupied by the British and was never part of the Chinese Republic.

The Indians are also staging a large-scale military buildup in their state of West Bengal, which is also near the Chinese border. In other words, thousands of heavily armed troops are facing each other across the Chinese and Indian borders and nobody is paying attention.

What’s worse is that the U.S. government seems to be doing little or nothing to defuse this situation. Instead, it’s turning its back, possibly because American companies profit by selling weapons and equipment to India. The CJ-130J transport planes the Indian army uses are made in the United States by Lockheed Martin.

This situation bears watching even if the U.S. media is pretending it doesn’t exist. This massive military buildup is similar to the one in Europe in the early 1900s that preceded the outbreak of World War I. The situation is even more dangerous because a very unstable nation with a large and very capable army—Pakistan—is also involved.

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  1. Seen2013 says:

    Well, this could be interesting:
    While I am hesitant to make this analysis incorporating a 404ed CNN piece from 2010, it certainly makes the recent events from Chinese forces entering deep into Indian territory to this piece's topic of Indian forces of 50K strong along the Indian-Pakistani-Sino border of Kashmir, a region also notably of tension between in particular contest between India and Pakistan. It certainly makes this even more interesting.

    First, the piece I am referring to that was 404ed also regarded Indian-Sino relations surrounding Kashmir in which India ceded parts of Kashmir the two nations have contested as part of their region.
    Second, until the US through President Obama's claim of eliminating Osama bin Laden nearby Pakistan's main base, Pakistani-US relations although in limited fashion enabled the US drone attacks against Afghan-Pakistani Taliban, a unit that Pakistan basically uses as shock forces against India in Kashmir. What is truly interesting here is, the US's line Pakistan cooperates in limited fashion, and to the best of my knowledge the Pakistanis almost always agreed to Afghan-Pakistani Taliban related to Kashmir.
    Third, China has declared an attack on Pakistan as an attack against China itself. This was later followed by the defense of Iran even in the event of world war or nuclear war.
    Fourth, Chinese forces claiming to have miscalculated ended up deep into Indian territory, and this prompted Indian military leaders to desire/demand increased military expenditures.
    Fifth, now, there's a massive buildup along the Indian-Pakistani-Sino border of 50k.

    With the CNN article being 404ed with the rest of the intrigue, it certainly remains interesting to say the least.
    In any case, either Indian-Sino possess a covert mutual interesting requiring Indian to gather military modernization and strength, or these two could be well on their way to butting heads.

    The US's decision to turn their back based on their lacking a better word at the moment slacking in diplomatic and military intrigue; I suspect the present geopolitical interests rests with the US desires Indian-Sino conflict as it weakens Syrian-Iranian aid, increases North Korean buffer zone vulnerability, and enables Japan to escalate its stance in regards to Japanese-Sino contested/rival interests.
    Based on military and diplomatic intrigue, it is almost certain that India has been measuring the US's reaction for indications of US intent. I'd say if this is a covert agreement between Indian-Sino relations; the US has failed India's test.

    • 321 says:

      "a unit that Pakistan basically uses as shock forces against India in Kashmir"

      completely wrong there…

      1. afghan taliban and pakistani taliban are not one and the same thing. the afghan taliban are in fact against the pakistani taliban. they don't like the fact that the pakistani taliban focuses on pakistan instead of foreign invaders (NATO). afghan taliban recently has decided to help pakistan in it's fight against ttp (pakistani taliban).
      2. how can pakistan see ttp as a proxy in kashmir when ttp is attacking them and is supported cia, raw and mossad?
      3. afghan taliban has never been involved in kashmir and there is no evidence it will be in the future, so it's completely illogical to say that pakistan is thinking of using it as as shock unit there.

      on china-india

      the reasons behind recent chinese provocations are easy to identify.

      1. india i believe had decided to upgrade it's border forces in the border with china. this was before any recent chinese incursions. china viewed that as a threat to the status quo and rightly so.

      2. the recent blame game being played by india against pakistan also has china worried that india will use these false flag attacks (and false flags they will remain until india provides credible evidence that pakistan is behind them) to attack pakistan. so essentially china is warning india to tone down it's warmongering.

      • Seen2013 says:

        “completely wrong there…”

        Actually no.

        “1. afghan taliban and pakistani taliban are not one and the same thing. the afghan taliban are in fact against the pakistani taliban. they don’t like the fact that the pakistani taliban focuses on pakistan instead of foreign invaders (NATO). afghan taliban recently has decided to help pakistan in it’s fight against ttp (pakistani taliban).”

        During the cold war, the US in coordination and cooperation with Pakistani intelligence created several terrorist tactics trained groups, two such groups would be Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, and they were funneled through a network into Afghanistan to fight the USSR and later dubbed the USSR’s Vietnam. This network stretches from Afghanistan-Kashmir, India, and the Afghanistan led Taliban was Pakistan’s western ally.

        Where did the splinter occur?
        1). Pakistan stood down and allowed the US led invasion of Afghanistan and its dismantling of the Afghanistan Taliban.
        2). Pakistan realignment and limited cooperation of the Taliban network particularly the network along the Afghan-Pakistani border aka Afghan-Pakistan Taliban in reference to the networks geographical region. Finally, the bin Laden raid near Pakistan’s main base and incidentally the birth of both cold war groups.
        3). Pakistan stands up to the US in the aftermath of the raid, China declares an attack on Pakistan is an attack on China, the US having been blocked from setting up its pincer against Iran from the east shifts west requiring Syria’s regime change and dismantling Iran’s primary western defense and counter-pincer. The Pakistani Taliban increasingly hostile towards the Pakistani government due to its cooperation largely against it and its networks.
        There’s much, much more that can be put down as long as Pakistani-Sino holds; it’s an issue to watch but changes little of the global balance of power.

        “2. how can pakistan see ttp as a proxy in kashmir when ttp is attacking them and is supported cia, raw and mossad?”

        Perhaps more bluntly than initially, Pakistan’s interest in Kashmir was forced onto the back burner likely indefinitely while the US seeks to establish a pincer maneuver against Iran. Syria or Pakistan must fall or completely cooperate with the US to accomplish that.

        “3. afghan taliban has never been involved in kashmir and there is no evidence it will be in the future, so it’s completely illogical to say that pakistan is thinking of using it as as shock unit there.”

        Re-read the history of the Cold War, formation of terrorist groups funneled into Afghanistan against the USSR, and it’s historical and diplomatic history. Then, look at Indian-Pakistani conflict in Kashmir. There’s plenty more to look at, but these would be good places to start.

        “1. india i believe had decided to upgrade it’s border forces in the border with china. this was before any recent chinese incursions. china viewed that as a threat to the status quo and rightly so.”

        With its low military expenditures, it required an event to justify the build up in the expenditure. Considering, the incursion didn’t incur a declaration of war; it’s very unlikely that the incursion wasn’t coordinated.

        “2. the recent blame game being played by india against pakistan also has china worried that india will use these false flag attacks (and false flags they will remain until india provides credible evidence that pakistan is behind them) to attack pakistan. so essentially china is warning india to tone down it’s warmongering.”

        Isn’t it interesting that events historically resulting in a declaration of war is being used to position and increase the production of reinforcements and follow on forces, which allows all three to legitimately expand military expenditures while the US laughs it off and looks towards Iran?
        It’s certainly a false flag, but it’s also one designed to mobilize a international counter-weight with minimal scrutiny.

        • 321 says:

          1.
          we know that they are different groups with divergent goals b/c the afghan taliban itself had said that they do not agree with the ttp attacking pakistan considering that the US and nato are just next door. recently it has also said that it is willing to help pakistan in it's fight against the ttp. so we know that they are NOT THE SAME.

          now that we know that they are completely different groups we need to address if there has been a splinter. these men are supposed to be angry pakistanis and so were not originally part of the afghan taliban. therefore there cannot be a splinter considering that they were never part of the afghan taliban to begin with. do not be taken in by the similar names. that is a propaganda stunt designed to gain support and create confusion.

          on the other hand there is a ton of proof showing that the ttp is created and supported by cia, raw and mossad. we know that pakistan is located in a strategic location. we know that pakistan is the only nuclear armed muslim nation. the zionists cannot allow this and so they created the ttp as a means to be able to destabilize and denuclearize pakistan plus preferably be able to balkanize it.

          their whole basis for attacking and destabilizing pakistan is that it is helping the US in the "WOT". that is complete nonsense. if it is so against the US then why is it in pakistan killing pakistanis and destroying that nation while the US is next door? if these men were so angry that pakistan helped the US then why is that they started this 7 yrs later? is it b/c they needed to make preparations? i'm sure that if they are indigenous then they would be amateurs. easy pickings for the isi.

          2.
          sorry i do not see the point u are trying to make here. it does not address the issue i raised in this point. btw imo iran is not the end goal and never has been. it is a stepping stone to pakistan. but that is not what we are discussing here so no point going off track.

          3.
          if u are claiming that some of those fighters went to kashmir and formed militant groups with pakistan's help, then that is a whole another topic. the fact remains that neither the ttp nor the afghan taliban have ever been or will be used as proxy forces in kashmir and considering all the evidence they won't be.

          on sino-indo:

          1. india is ranked 8th in the world for military expenditures. i don't know about u but to me that is pretty high. in any case it doesn't make sense that china would collaborate with india so india can raise it's expenditure. why would china allow india, a nation that is being propped up as a counter-weight to it, to increase it's expenditure.

          2. sorry but it doesn't make sense. why would they need to hide it from the US? china's modernization program is no secret so why would they need to hide an increase in expenditure? as i said before, india is being propped up against china so in reality the US would want it to increase it's expenditure. this is also a reason why they aren't trying to become a joint international counter-weight. india being aligned with the US geopolitically makes this impossible.
          china, together with russia, is already trying to become a counter-weight. this is no secret. if they wanted minimal scrutiny then they failed miserably a while ago considering that the US had said that it's shifting it's focus to the asia-pacific. in other words china.

          as for pakistan. well it's a confusing country. i mean china is it's biggest supporter and it knows that the terrorist groups are foreign sponsored but the foreign policy of it's leaders is submissive and pro-western. the US wants to denuclearize pakistan but unless it openly attacks pakistan as it did a year ago, the pakistani leaders won't do anything to anger it.

          it could be that pakistan knows the US plans and is, as the US has been saying, secretly against the US. if so pakistan is walking a fine line and needs to play it perfectly. they have been pretty good so far i would say. btw imo pakistan has every justification to do this if they are. they did 9/11 to create a way to get to pakistan. pakistan is not the US's slave. but again this is a discussion for another day.

  2. Seen2013 says:

    In part to attempt keeping it short:

    In response to 1, The Afghanistan Taliban was created under the supervision and training by the CIA and Pakistani Intelligence in terrorist tactics and staged into Afghanistan through the Afghan-Pakistani border. The Afghan Taliban was established to attain leadership of Afghanistan and serve as Pakistan's western ally.
    Confessions of an Economic Hitman and Desperate Deceptions would be helpful reading in diplomatic historical parallels. Such as Mossad's roots goes back to MI6 training in terrorist tactics to fight the Nazis during WWII with a renewed and again reneged promise of a sovereign Israel resulting in the Palestinian Jews turning their training against the British.

    This also ignores that one of the reasons the US populace was bombarded with the media and leadership Iraq and in particular Afghanistan would be short was that their initial victories consisted of destroying networks the CIA in cooperation and coordination with Pakistani Intelligence supervised in establishing for their terrorist trained groups to fight the Soviets particularly in Afghanistan leading to the creation and established leadership of Pakistan's former solid ally in Afghanistan aka the Afghan Taliban.

    "3.
    if u are claiming that some of those fighters went to kashmir and formed militant groups with pakistan's help, then that is a whole another topic. the fact remains that neither the ttp nor the afghan taliban have ever been or will be used as proxy forces in kashmir and considering all the evidence they won't be."

    Close enough, the closest parallel today is the Al-Qaeda and trained mercenaries being funneled into Syria while Turkey establishes corridors enabling the 'rebel' groups a relative safe foothold to expand from. The biggest difference despite the distinction of influence is that the dynamics stalemated, and Pakistan was forced to realign its interests, which is central to the article that we're responding to.

    "1. india is ranked 8th in the world for military expenditures. i don't know about u but to me that is pretty high. in any case it doesn't make sense that china would collaborate with india so india can raise it's expenditure. why would china allow india, a nation that is being propped up as a counter-weight to it, to increase it's expenditure."

    Not really, India's ability to fight an extended/long term war conventionally is limited. This requires convincing the populace that not only is additional border force necessary but military expenditures need increased.
    The best analogy, which imo is instead of Chess but Diplomacy, is that this is paramount to a prearranged bounce. Prearranged bounces are designed to deceptively establish trust and coordination particularly among historically hostile or tense international relations without also by the casual or inexperienced observer to note the dynamic shift. The tell is that the action would typically result in a much more hostile. Border guard and expanding expenditure aren't exactly hostile in historically hostile triangle.

    "2. sorry but it doesn't make sense. why would they need to hide it from the US? china's modernization program is no secret so why would they need to hide an increase in expenditure? as i said before, india is being propped up against china so in reality the US would want it to increase it's expenditure. this is also a reason why they aren't trying to become a joint international counter-weight. india being aligned with the US geopolitically makes this impossible.
    china, together with russia, is already trying to become a counter-weight. this is no secret. if they wanted minimal scrutiny then they failed miserably a while ago considering that the US had said that it's shifting it's focus to the asia-pacific. in other words china."

    India and Pakistan are playing both sides of the Russo-Sino V US and NATO dynamic. The difference is their roles.
    Pakistan is a Sino buffer like North Korea, and it is being forced to dismantle its networks created and trained in cooperation with the CIA. The US is destroying this network because after Iran falls; the last legitimate threat to the West exposing Russia's underbelly is gone. It most certainly does not want Pakistan being able to use its coordinated networks the CIA helped to establish repeating the USSR's defeat.
    It is in the US's interests to encourage Indian-Pakistani-Sino tensions to explode as it will cause a cascade effect in the West's favor making North Korea, Syria, and in particular Iran vulnerable to Western interests.
    Pakistan and India are in their own ways based on their situations are playing a delicate game with both sides. Based on the whole map board in analogy to Diplomacy, this is a prearranged bounce meant to encourage the US and West to keep focused on Syria and Iran in particular and establish trust through diplomatic relations and coordination.
    It shouldn't be a surprise if North Korea is green lighted to divert US and West's attention again.

    Indian-Pakistani-Russo-Sino wouldn't be to the US and West's liking. This doesn't just threaten Dollar Hegemony; it threatens Western proposed alternative to the Dollar and aspiration Hegemony as well.

    • 321 says:

      1.
      sorry but what u are saying still has got nothing to do with what i was saying. however note that i am not disagreeing with what u are saying. what u have described just now is the formation of the afghan taliban NOT the pakistani taliban. the afghan taliban and the ttp (pakistani taliban) are not allies (and never have been) and are certainly not 2 branches of the same entity. they are completely different.
      the reason i made this one of my points was b/c u termed it as the "afghan-pakistani taliban unit" which implies that they are 2 branches of a single entity which is absolutely false.

      on sino-indo

      1.
      yes i agree. it's ability to wage a prolonged war is limited. but on the second part i'm not sure what u mean. are u saying that china is just tricking the indians into thinking that it is cooperating with them?

      2.
      interesting perspective. but i have to disagree on the last part. i do not think the US is too worried about the dollar. why? well i would suggest to read "jerusalem in the quran" by imran hosein. it's an old book being written 12 yrs ago and needs to be updated but i would still think it's relevant. israel wants to become the next superpower and to do that the US dollar needs to be killed. israel controls the US and so the US will do whatever israel wants meaning it will destroy itself economically and even militarily. whatever has been happening since 9/11 is meant to bring about the collapse of the US dollar and for the US to cease being the superpower, or center of the world.

  3. Hales says:

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  4. When will there ever be world peace?

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